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09-25-2006, 04:10 PM
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Yeah. This is certainly nothing new in many places.
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09-26-2006, 04:15 PM
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This is nothing new. Phi Mu social event paperwork requires a guest list.
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09-27-2006, 10:55 AM
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The parties have all been list for a couple years but there were always ways around it.
Now, all of the freshmen will have to find friends with apts to drink on the weekend if they can't talk/flash their way onto the list. It's sad because I remember FIJI Island and a bunch of other parties that were must-go and open. Oh well.
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09-27-2006, 08:52 PM
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Old news, but critically important.
Many if not most of the bad incidents I have personally known about at Greek parties (i.e. "in the newspaper" kind of stuff) involved at least one stranger who just showed up.
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09-28-2006, 03:48 PM
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Old news, but critically important.
Many if not most of the bad incidents I have personally known about at Greek parties (i.e. "in the newspaper" kind of stuff) involved at least one stranger who just showed up.
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I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.
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09-29-2006, 01:02 AM
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I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.
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When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.
Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.
It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.
I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.
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09-29-2006, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EE-BO
When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.
Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.
It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.
I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.
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Not only that, at Penn State there are a ridiculous amount of outsiders (high schoolers, townies, people from other colleges) coming to party just because it's a big school in the middle of BFP.
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09-29-2006, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EE-BO
When it comes to date rape, assault, fights and property damage- most cases where I have personal knowledge of the incident (i.e. I was at the party or knew someone who gave firsthand information about a party) involved at least one stranger.
Hazing and accidents are one thing. But when it comes to the things I mention above, outside guests are a serious problem.
It's logical really- they are drunk at some party and have nothing to lose because it ain't their house or their friends.
I realize my experience does not make for a reliable national statistic, but I think it at least illustrates what a risk uninvited guests can be.
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It is like your said, your experience is hardly a reliable national statistic.
I bet Deltalumni has a pie chart on his bedroom ceiling with the exact breakdowns. He could probably settle it.
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09-29-2006, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax
I doubt that.
I would bet most incidents involve members of the fraternity.
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Getting rather late here, so I am not going to do a full blown search.
But a down and dirty one found this:
http://www.securityoncampus.org/aboutsoc/baer.html
I have rather good feelings that there are more....
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09-29-2006, 01:36 PM
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It is one example out of thousands. Is that your idea of a majority?
Last edited by madmax; 09-29-2006 at 01:53 PM.
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