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Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple
I'd love to answer this, but to be honest, this little scenario you just layed down would never take place.
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Translation: I would answer that, but it might show a lack of consistency and logic in what I have already said, so I think I'll just dodge the question altogether.
C'mon. If you say the UGA chapter of Chi Phi should be held accountable for the actions of their pledges, then would you also say that your chapter be held responsible for the actions of your probationary members? Saying, "it would never take place" is simply a dodge.
And interesting that you would say this:
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Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple
Should the whole chapter be punished? No, but they will need to answer for these guys and they cleary did and are cooperating with the administration. If it was found that the chapter was behind this then, yea, they should be punished. Period.
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I think most of us would agree with this.
But earlier, when many of us were asking why the entire chapter should be punished unless it could be shown that the chapter itself was behind what these guys did, you seemed quite willing to condemn the whole chapter simply because a few pledges "weren't mindful of their actions even they knew that OTHERS knew that they were associated with the UGA chapter of Chi Phi."
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Originally Posted by Soul D-Psi-ple
No, [removing the chapter] would not remove individual ignorance, but it would remove an organization from the campus that represents ignorance.
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When an organization does something truly STUPID and IGNORANT, and the administration takes notice of this, they have to do something about it.
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So which is it? Should the chapter be punished only if the investigation shows the chapter was behind the pledges' actions, or should the chapter be punished regardless because it "represents ignorance"?
And by the way, I agree with you that racism is always wrong. I imagine Kevin does, too. But he's exactly right -- there are people who don't agree with the three of us on that. There are even people who think racism is the will of God. Kind of like how many people think abortion is always wrong and against the will of God, but others disagree with them.