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09-11-2006, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jon1856
kddani: IMHO, if you ask that, I am not in any position to answer. Just my POV I guess.
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Somebody died that is newsworthy, that all the news outlets reported, and you want to say that it is "sad" that I posted it at a particular time? I think it's sad and tacky that you would stoop to commenting on something like that with that sort of implication.
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09-11-2006, 11:42 AM
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09-11-2006, 11:57 AM
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Don't know him. Don't really care. I'm not even sure why this is in the news.
Maybe what Jon's saying (and I'm perhaps putting words into his mouth) is that he's sad that Americans think stuff like this qualifies as "news." Out of the thousands of people who died that day, one was the son of a billionaire celebrity. Why should we care more about this kid than all the rest just because his mom married some billionaire, and presumably, he had some of that money?
-- also, the family's attorney's name is awesome.
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09-11-2006, 12:03 PM
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Don't know him. Don't really care. I'm not even sure why this is in the news.
Maybe what Jon's saying (and I'm perhaps putting words into his mouth) is that he's sad that Americans think stuff like this qualifies as "news." Out of the thousands of people who died that day, one was the son of a billionaire celebrity. Why should we care more about this kid than all the rest just because his mom married some billionaire, and presumably, he had some of that money?
-- also, the family's attorney's name is awesome.
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Thank you Kevin.
You are correct.
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09-11-2006, 12:09 PM
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Is the world, or at least the US, supposed to stop every year on 9/11?
What difference does it make if she started this thread on 9/11...at *gasp* 9:01 am. What difference does it make if she started it at 9:11 am?
There's a point where sensativity goes overboard.
Plus, if we DO stop the world every 9/11, then we've given the terrorists exactly what they wanted.
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09-11-2006, 12:14 PM
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Is the world, or at least the US, supposed to stop every year on 9/11?
What difference does it make if she started this thread on 9/11...at *gasp* 9:01 am. What difference does it make if she started it at 9:11 am?
There's a point where sensativity goes overboard.
Plus, if we DO stop the world every 9/11, then we've given the terrorists exactly what they wanted.
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Your answer is contained in both Kevin's and my postings....never said anything about stopping the world......
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09-11-2006, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Is the world, or at least the US, supposed to stop every year on 9/11?
What difference does it make if she started this thread on 9/11...at *gasp* 9:01 am. What difference does it make if she started it at 9:11 am?
There's a point where sensativity goes overboard.
Plus, if we DO stop the world every 9/11, then we've given the terrorists exactly what they wanted.
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I don't care that it's 9/11. I care that the guy was pretty insignificant. Certainly less significant than say, a middle class guy who was a father, husband, etc. Certainly less "sad" as y'all like to say.
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09-11-2006, 12:38 PM
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I don't care that it's 9/11. I care that the guy was pretty insignificant. Certainly less significant than say, a middle class guy who was a father, husband, etc. Certainly less "sad" as y'all like to say.
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Eh, I disagree. I think it's very tragic when youths die unexpectedly, regardless of who they were or who their parents were. This boy will never experience many things a middle class guy who was a father, husband, etc. has experienced. But, that's just my personal feeling on the issue.
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09-11-2006, 12:48 PM
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I don't care that it's 9/11.
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That was my point. I happen to agree, that I don't really care much about Anna Nicole's family, but it's not offensive to post because "Dude, it's 9/11 and 3000 people died on this day".
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09-12-2006, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Is the world, or at least the US, supposed to stop every year on 9/11?
What difference does it make if she started this thread on 9/11...at *gasp* 9:01 am. What difference does it make if she started it at 9:11 am?
There's a point where sensativity goes overboard.
Plus, if we DO stop the world every 9/11, then we've given the terrorists exactly what they wanted.
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Agreed.......
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09-12-2006, 01:18 AM
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I wonder if he died of a brain aneurysim or something out of the ordinary like that? It seems like he died just out of the blue, and he was a young man.
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09-17-2006, 09:27 AM
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Is the world, or at least the US, supposed to stop every year on 9/11?
What difference does it make if she started this thread on 9/11...at *gasp* 9:01 am. What difference does it make if she started it at 9:11 am?
There's a point where sensativity goes overboard.
Plus, if we DO stop the world every 9/11, then we've given the terrorists exactly what they wanted.
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I'm in full agreement with Alpha on this one....I don't think a day has went by since 9/11 that we haven't heard about 9/11. I was actually out of the country for work on 9/11 and it was terrifying to have to take a plane back when the airports were re-opened. The airports were silent.
Sensitivity has gone overboard....when people like that lady that has been making the rounds on the talk shows that wants everyone to feel sorry for her because she blew through almost $5 million and now complaining she is broke after spending $250,000 on a pool and $16,000 on two yorkshire terriers...I think back to the $300 that I gave to the Red Cross, and how I had bills I had to pay, but I was thinking about the stay at home moms that would have a house payment the next month, or others whose income earner had died...not about someone who hired an interior decorator and decided that spending millions on her home would make her feel better.
Now they want $500,000 Million for a memorial?
Not a $1.00 will come from me.
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09-11-2006, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kddani
Somebody died that is newsworthy, that all the news outlets reported, and you want to say that it is "sad" that I posted it at a particular time? I think it's sad and tacky that you would stoop to commenting on something like that with that sort of implication.
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None of the news media or outlets that I was watching or lisening to said anything about it this morning at all. First report I heard was just now-on a music or entertainmet radio station.
Other matters happeining here today.
Yes, any death is sad. But what makes this one, today, so special?
The son of semi-celeberty dies.
Here, in NYC metro area, 3000 died five years ago.
I logged into CG to see if there were any discustions on that given the several shows last night and today-and was just not in the frame of mind to see your posting at that time.
Sorry if my posting seemed sad and tacky to you. I did label it my POV and MHO.
I return this thread to its original status......
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09-11-2006, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jon1856
None of the news media or outlets that I was watching or lisening to said anything about it this morning at all. First report I heard was just now-on a music or entertainmet radio station.
Other matters happeining here today.
Yes, any death is sad. But what makes this one, today, so special?
The son of semi-celeberty dies.
Here, in NYC metro area, 3000 died five years ago.
I logged into CG to see if there were any discustions on that given the several shows last night and today-and was just not in the frame of mind to see your posting at that time.
Sorry if my posting seemed sad and tacky to you. I did label it my POV and MHO.
I return this thread to its original status......
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It was on the front page of cnn.com, abcnews.com and other significant media outlets when I posted it this morning.
I think Anna Nicole is a whack job, no question. But her son is only 20 and is fairly well known and the circumstances of his death are unknown. It's noteable for cnn and abc news, and Anna Nicole has been talked about here. I read it, thought others would be interested, and posted it here.
As Alphafrog said, the world can't stop for this all. Life does go on. That doesn't mean that we don't remember things. And every person deals with it in their own way.
Yes, larger events are happening in the world today. Like my boyfriend, who is a volunteer firefighter, has been fighting a rather large fire in our area since 7AM this morning. I'm both proud and worried sick about him.
Doesn't this kind of criticizing and bickering kinda go against what we "should" be doing/remembering/what have you on this day?
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09-11-2006, 01:41 PM
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Doesn't this kind of criticizing and bickering kinda go against what we "should" be doing/remembering/what have you on this day?
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You're right, it does.
But it applies both ways. It applies to those who are "not in the frame of mind" to read a posting about the death, however sad, of a demi-celebrity and as a result submit a post that strikes some as tacky. It also applies to those who insist on criticizing that poster for being too sensitive and offending too easily. There's enough sympathy to go around for everyone.
Jon, I know from your other posts here that today is a day of particular sadness and poignancy for you. I hope you find some comfort today.
Dani, I hope your boyfriend is okay. I can't imagine the stress I would feel pretty constantly if someone close to me was putting his life in danger like that.
And for the record, although I think Anna Nicole Smith is, like Paris Hilton, a sad example of America's obsession with celebrities who have done absolutely nothing to deserve celebrity, I always feel sympathy for anyone who has lost a child. That includes Anna Nicole Smith and her family.
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