Lame?

[AKΨ_BRO@DSU]

Originally Posted by Scandia

Not at all! Please send him over here to me!

LOL, in the case you hadn't caught on yet, I was talk about myself.

Originally Posted by Rudey

I would think he was gay.

And if any girl tells you it's OK, ask for her picture

Ouch!

Originally Posted by afboiler

I would never date him....seems like he is too clean-cut for me....I like people can drink responsibly in a social situation and have a good time....I find guys like him do not mix with my social responsibilities of my job

How is it possible to be too clean cut? And just because someone doesn't drink doesn't mean that they don't know how to have a good time...in fact, the fact they don't need anything extra to do so would say a lot. What are the "social responsibilities" of your job?

[Drolefille]

I know some people's jobs "require" them to host clients in bars/restaurants and if you're not having a beer with them, there's something wrong with that.

Not sure I agree, but I wouldn't be having that job myself.

Some people assume that those who DON'T drink are preachy about it. While I have my own feelings about alcohol, and those who need it to have fun, I pretty much keep it to myself unless asked.

I do think drug use is stupid, though I've seen good arguments for legalization. I've never felt the need to impair myself to either relax or have fun.

There are girls out there, and yes Rudey, attractive girls, who will find you attractive. You may be hanging out with the wrong crowd though...

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

How is it possible to be too clean cut? And just because someone doesn't drink doesn't mean that they don't know how to have a good time...in fact, the fact they don't need anything extra to do so would say a lot.

Exactly. I've never really been flat out wasted before, I'm only a social drinker, and was a non-drinker up until my early twenties. I am in NO WAY a prude or too clean cut. I'm naturally an unhibited person, I don't need that much booze, if any, to act a fool, be outgoing, or do crazy things. It sucks to be stereotyped as some introverted party-pooper who does nothing but play chess and the violin on your weekend nights.

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

Exactly. I've never really been flat out wasted before, I'm only a social drinker, and was a non-drinker up until my early twenties. I am in NO WAY a prude or too clean cut. I'm naturally an unhibited person, I don't need that much booze, if any, to act a fool, be outgoing, or do crazy things. It sucks to be stereotyped as some introverted party-pooper who does nothing but play chess and the violin on your weekend nights.

You do realize that you're the god wine, right?

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

How is it possible to be too clean cut? And just because someone doesn't drink doesn't mean that they don't know how to have a good time...in fact, the fact they don't need anything extra to do so would say a lot.

You might not have intended it, but this quote reveals a bit of why I personally would never date a guy who didn't drink. There seems to be a little high-and-mighty about the way you say "the fact they don't need anything extra to do so would say a lot." What, exactly, would it say? It seems you're implying that people who drink "need" to do so to have a good time. That in itself comes off as preachy to me.

As for the virgin thing, again, not my cup of tea, but I'm sure some women would appreciate it.

[Drolefille]

There's a difference between those who drink socially and have fun, and those who feel they HAVE to drink to have fun... or to meet guys or whatever.

The first is not a problem, and I think most would agree that the second is bad. Not drinking means you're definately NOT in that second category.

I don't consider myself a drinker, though when in Ireland and Italy I had to drink SOMETHING so I drank hard cider in the Irish pubs and red wine (only a little, I hate red wine) in Italy. Heck I even played circle of death with cider.


Non drinkers aren't bad people... nor are we more preachy. How many times have I had to listen to... "You Don't Drink? LOSER!" etc..

[AKΨ_BRO@DSU]

Originally Posted by valkyrie

You might not have intended it, but this quote reveals a bit of why I personally would never date a guy who didn't drink. There seems to be a little high-and-mighty about the way you say "the fact they don't need anything extra to do so would say a lot." What, exactly, would it say? It seems you're implying that people who drink "need" to do so to have a good time. That in itself comes off as preachy to me.

As for the virgin thing, again, not my cup of tea, but I'm sure some women would appreciate it.

Actually that was in respose to this:

Originally Posted by afboiler

I like people can drink responsibly in a social situation and have a good time....I find guys like him do not mix with my social responsibilities of my job

I don't think it makes me high and mighty because I don't drink but I find the purpose of doing so meaningless other than to have a good time. And all I'm saying is that I'm not dependant on alcohol to do so. If it is possible for a person who drinks to have a good time without doing so, then why drink?

[kddani]

You asked for people's personal opinions, and they're giving them to you, so what's the sense in arguing? If you don't want to hear the opinions, then don't ask

For me, the drug thing- well, that's a plus, as I think it would be for the majority of women.

The drinking- no so much a plus. I myself am not a big drinker, I have a few when I go out but I can't even remember the last time I was "drunk". However, nondrinkers (as a whole, because each person can of course be different) kind of bother me usually because they can tend to lecture, make fun of, or just be somewhat of an inconvenience. I don't want to be made to feel bad because i'm getting a drink with dinner. One of my best friends doesn't drink, but it's not an issue there. But then I went out on a few dates with a guy who was a nondrinker, and he was a pain in the ass.

The virgin- sorry, not for me and not for a lot of women this day and age. If it works for you, great, but it's a turn off to many women. I'm not going to judge your values, but can only say that it would be a turn off to me personally.

It's funny, because the guy who was also a nondrinker ended up also being a virgin (declared waiting for marriage- he was 26 when we went out), and was really preachy.

[AKΨ_BRO@DSU]

My intent isn't to argue but just to see where people with an alternative perspective are coming from. Plus, I was accused of sounding high and might and was simply explaining that I wasn't. Question to you: Why is the virgin thing a turn off?

[kddani]

Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

My intent isn't to argue but just to see where people with an alternative perspective are coming from. Plus, I was accused of sounding high and might and was simply explaining that I wasn't. Question to you: Why is the virgin thing a turn off?

I try not to discuss my sex life on GC, but I will try to answer your question, but i'm guessing it's not an answer you haven't heard before. I'm not interested in someone who is inexperienced. I am not interested in someone who would likely judge me because I did not make the same choice they did. I believe that sexually compatibility is important in a relationship and ultimately with the man that I marry.

[OtterXO]

Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

My intent isn't to argue but just to see where people with an alternative perspective are coming from. Plus, I was accused of sounding high and might and was simply explaining that I wasn't. Question to you: Why is the virgin thing a turn off?

It's not the "virgin" thing that's a turn off to me, it's all the stuff that typically comes with it....like the guy being super religious. Plus, guys who are virgins would probably tend to judge a girl like me who didn't wait for marriage.

[AKΨ_BRO@DSU]

To both responses:

Well don't you think that that's an unfair assumption about the person? I mean realistically the guy probably isn't expecting you to be a virgin, just at least not a ho. If you were in to the guy too (him as a person), then why couldn't you respect the fact that he chooses to wait, just like he respects the fact that you didn't decide to? And its another unfair assumption to assume the guy is "super religious" (whatever that means) just because he's a virgin. He could just be waiting for the right person and hasn't found her yet.

Would it be wrong for me to assume based off of your responses that sex is a major concern that you associate with the guys you go out with?

[Dionysus]

Hmmmm...I'm not into inexperienced guys either. I guess that's bad, lol.

[Lady Pi Phi]

Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

...If it is possible for a person who drinks to have a good time without doing so, then why drink?

Because some people actually like it. They aren't drinking because they need to. They are drinking because they like to. It's like having the second piece of cake. You don't need it, but you want it because it tastes good.

[afboiler]

Originally Posted by AKΨ_BRO@DSU

How is it possible to be too clean cut? And just because someone doesn't drink doesn't mean that they don't know how to have a good time...in fact, the fact they don't need anything extra to do so would say a lot. What are the "social responsibilities" of your job?

After work on Friday most of us go out to the club for a few drinks. It is a fun time to socialize, meet the new arrivals, and network to get a little work done.......Being able to adapt to that situation is very important for me. you DO NOT need to drink but you need to okay with people drinking around you. I have been to two relationships that failed and one of the reasons for both of them was how they handled the social situation....one would not drink, felt out of place and would not talk to anyone....my coworkers took that as he was depressed sad or did not like them.....the other one got too drunk and would embarrass himself and me....To me it is all about balance.

The virgin thing would not bother me as long as I was okay with the physical relationship going that far....

Drugs are a non issue...I don't do them and my friends do either