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Old 02-16-2011, 11:02 AM
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As you can see, there are 4 little hickydoos (I don't know what else to call them) at the top of the crest and under the Phoenix
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It's called a wreath or sometimes tortilly.
Actually, it's called a wreath or a torse, with each of the hickydoos being a knot or a twist. It's supposed to look like two pieces of cloth -- tradiitionally one in the main tincture (color) of the field of the shield and one in the main metal (silver [white] or gold [yellow], which are not considered colors) twisted together. It's what would have held the knight's crest on his helmet. (Note: heraldically speaking, the crest is only what is above the torse -- in ASA's case, the crown -- not the entire design.) Customarily, there are six twists, which may explain why some who don't know better get ASA's wrong.

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I suppose red, buff, and green aren't totally specific (another sister correct me if I'm wrong) so I don't think there are specific shades of those colors that must be used.(
I think of buff as a specific shade that doesn't need further description.

Meanwhile, since erroneous coats of arms have been brought up, as I mentioned in the thread on arms and other symbols, one sometimes sees this for ours:

There shouldn't be a ribbon with "PHI MU ALPHA" on top. It should look like this:
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