APO/A-Phi-Q conflict

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Then there are coed chapters, again at PWIs, who hold IFC offices they should not hold and/or use membership selection in a way more like an NPC or NIC group would.

I see what you mean. However, some of that would be in the gender and APO threads where members have discussed the debate over co-ed or nonco-ed chapters. That's very rooted in gender (and not a more objective organizational transformation concern) because even the female APO brothers who don't transform chapters into NPC replicas have caught flack.

Originally Posted by 33girl

So there is a racial factor, yes, but it's hardly the whole story.

"It's hardly the whole story" is a common response when people bring up race or gender. It was never presented as the "whole story."

I was actually initially just saying that I can understand why members (of all historically and predominantly white organizations, not just APO) don't want members at HBCUs to transform the organization. I happened to state the obvious which is that HBCU members are predominantly Black and APO brothers are predominantly white.

But, people will never get to even half of the story if it makes them feel safe to keep pretending as though the APO/A-Phi-Q thing is merely conveniently nested in HBCUs and some Black members at PWIs.