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Old 01-10-2009, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaDeltaDelta View Post
Also, as I previously pointed out, some of those "women and children" being killed are either militants or the wives/children of militants.
Oh well then that makes it alright

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For one, many Israelis do not believe the Palestinians should have any land, and had no say in the matter (these are usually the more religious hard-liners). If you think about this from any other countries perspective, whether it is land that they gave to the other people or another country altogether, if they have the military might and are being constantly attacked, they will occupy that country to ensure these attacks are minimized... It's basic logic. I feel for the civilians of Gaza right now, because it was not their choice for Hamas to come in there and take over, but Israel cannot stop defending itself because of this regrettable fact.
Well that's the problem (Israel not believing Palestine has any rights to the land). I mean, who's land it was prior to 1948? Pretty sure it was Palestine until the British (and several other countries) gave the land back to the survivors of the Holocaust, and that is where the trouble really began.

You do have a point about occupying the land, but Israel isn't just occupying the land and attacking when needed. They are killing Palestinians without being provoked by them first. That isn't just "occupying" anymore.

I totally agree with you, I feel for the people of Gaza. I don't think they knew what they were getting into when Hamas was elected. And Israel does have a right to protect themselves. With that said, I DO believe Israel is going a little too far. They claim they won't stop until Hamas is exterminated, but is that even feasible? If one Hamas leader is killed, there will just be another one to take his place. Instead of constantly bombing houses, schools, "churches," etc, and claiming there were weapons (have any of those claims been proven true yet?) they should be a little more secretive. Infiltrate Gaza and find the true Hamas members, instead of blind bombings.

True, 16 yr olds are not children, but I hope you aren't thinking those are what are being considered "children" cause I KNOW there are infants, toddlers, etc that are dieing.


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Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24
This is not a war based on land or history. It is based on theology. I personally believe Israel has a biblical mandate to that land.
Well if we are gonna go there, then Israel only has a "biblical mandate" to part of the land they currently claim. (According to the maps in my bible) The biblical Israel stopped short of Jerusalem, and extends into present day Jordan. The Gaza strip (and the land around it) was not Israel but Philistia and the land from Jerusalem down was Judah and Edom.

You can see what land biblical Israel claimed and what current day Israel claims here: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/images/kingdoms.gif

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