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Old 01-09-2009, 09:14 PM
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Just a little FYI for those who still don't understand why Arabs hate Israel (and the US support of it)

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion...k-1230046.html
thanks for posting that, it was a good read


I read an article the other day -in print, no links, sorry- by some Israeli writer and he suggested that peace would only come through a secularization of the region (Palestine/Israel and their shared/disputed land)

Good job for Egypt though, for trying to get peace
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Old 01-09-2009, 10:06 PM
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thanks for posting that, it was a good read


I read an article the other day -in print, no links, sorry- by some Israeli writer and he suggested that peace would only come through a secularization of the region (Palestine/Israel and their shared/disputed land)

Good job for Egypt though, for trying to get peace
Yeah, good luck with that.

A question for the lawyers, if US Transportation Security Authority officials hadn't been involved could the airline on its own legally prevented him from flying? On the one hand it seems like they could have whatever dress codes for their passengers they wanted to put in place and enforce consistently. On the other, because in this case it's the guy's ethnicity that makes the shirt threatening to some people, they'd be discriminating against him probably to address the dress code issue. So, could the airline probably have gotten away with saying, turn your shirt inside out or we won't let you on the flight?

I have another question too that I wondered what you all thought about. How much should the desire to avoiding racial or ethnic discrimination overrule the use of correlations that seem to have pretty good validity in law enforcement, assuming that any really existed?

Obviously, expecting all the members of a racial, ethnic or religious group to just accept that they already have one profile "strike" against them and therefore have to bear a certain loss of civil liberties is crazy and wrong.

But if you watch and read as much kind of "true crime" crap as I do, there are frequently repeated claims like most serial killers are white guys and that it's especially rare for serial killers to seek victims of a different race. If these claims bore out statistically, is it okay for law enforcement agents to focus more scrutiny on suspects of certain races, assuming that there are other non-racial reason that the people came under suspicion?

ETA: obviously, my serial killer example involves a specific crime that the police know has already been committed and most "profiling" seems to me to be about preventing a crime that hasn't happened yet when were talking airlines or an assumption about a crime that might be occurring but that there's no definitive proof off like drug transportation. Does that matter if it's you that the police think might be guilty based partially on your race?

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