Question for all actives/alumni

[DrPhil]

Why am I just realizing that lucgreek is a TKE? LOL.

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Different chapters have different criteria. Tests are at the discretion of each chapter. You could get a 100% on whatever test they make and still not get initiated because you're a dick.

Whether this chapter requires 100% or is just making the OP sweat I have no idea.

He really should be studying with his pledge brothers instead of posting on the internets.

Tests aren't the ultimate decider for membership. That's typically a given.

The question was whether the NHQ has a standard (by which it allows the chapters to apply discretion). Are you saying that the NHQ has no standard and that chapters can just do whatever with the test scores?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by LZsteelers

yes i meant local founders, is there really no required score to pass?

Why not learn the organization's history? That way, you won't have to worry about scoring so low.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Why am I just realizing that lucgreek is a TKE? LOL.



Tests aren't the ultimate decider for membership. That's typically a given.

The question was whether the NHQ has a standard (by which it allows the chapters to apply discretion). Are you saying that the NHQ has no standard and that chapters can just do whatever with the test scores?

Only three chapters at my school, you had a 33% change of guessing my affiliation

Tests can either be used or not, it's up to the chapters. If you bomb your tests, chances are you aren't that dedicated and you won't get initiated. For some chapters, tests hold a ton of weight. Others, not so much. The chapters have their own standard of what's acceptable or not. Membership selection is really complex and full of gray area.

But I'll say this, I've never met a chapter that has NOT used tests in their membership evaluation. The degree of weight it holds varies.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by lucgreek

Only three chapters at my school, you had a 33% change of guessing my affiliation

Tests can either be used or not, it's up to the chapters. If you bomb your tests, chances are you aren't that dedicated and you won't get initiated. For some chapters, tests hold a ton of weight. Others, not so much. The chapters have their own standard of what's acceptable or not. Membership selection is really complex and full of gray area.

But I'll say this, I've never met a chapter that has NOT used tests in their membership evaluation. The degree of weight it holds varies.

@ the bold - That's why I found this interesting. In my organization, the chapters do have discretion (obviously, since HQ isn't there for the day-to-day), but we still have a set of standards that must be met in order for a pledge to become activated.

If someone has a great GPA, tons of service, and is a great guy, but he doesn't meet our national standards, he doesn't become a member. In situations like that, he'd likely be invited back for membership, but there's no wiggle room if he doesn't meet HQ's requirements.

[lucgreek]

There are objective national standards a new member must meet before they can get initiated. The chapters have quite a bit of leeway on if the person would be a good member for that chapter.

[knight_shadow]

Cool.

I guess we should move on, since this is getting too close to membership selection haha

Moral of this thread -- OP needs to get off GC and study his shit.

[lucgreek]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I guess we should move on, since this is getting too close to membership selection

Yep, which is why you see some chapters of "Tau Kappa Everyone" and other chapters where it's not the case.

[RaggedyAndy]

LZ, you have 3 options:
1. calm down, man-up, and do what you need to do.
2. Drop-out (because you don't agree with the practices of the chapter)
3. Continue down this path of whining until you are asked to leave.
The choice is yours.

[jnowak530]

If you know when your test is going to be treat it like you would any other test. Study and prepare for it. Working with your pledge brothers is what I would recommend. As to whether or not you need 100% it all varies by the chapter and what they see as required. Most information probably could be found by talking to the actives at the chapter your pledging. TKE.org also has alot of usefull information as far as national information and requirments are concerned.

[33girl]

Learning founders has to be easier for guys than girls. Guys aren't going to have maiden and married names. (And as far as learning chapter charter members - who knows in this day and age how many times some of the CCMs might be married and remarried. Yipes.)

[DrPhil]

For the sororities whose founders had maiden and married names to memorize.

Some fraternity founders have middle names to be remembered (i.e. three of Omega's founders). That's the same as memorizing maiden and married names since many of the women replaced their middle name for their maiden name.