New movie-making fun of greeks?? - Page 7

Senusret I · #91 07-07-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick

I am not concerned about ZTA not being ok. Trust me, we'll be fine. I am OFFENDED that someone would use the combination together in such a way as to make viewers connect with Zeta Tau Alpha.

It's the point that someone or a group of people went out of their way to do this. Yet, we should just applaud them or ignore it because the movie looks funny?

You weren't offended when YOUR letters were used, fine. But, don't sit there and tell me or any other ZTA that we shouldn't be offended when OUR letters are used (with one of our main colors).

You and every other ZTA that reads this shouldn't be offended.

Tippiechick · #92 07-07-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

You and every other ZTA that reads this shouldn't be offended.

If you were anyone else, I'd hold a damn grudge.

Senusret I · #93 07-07-2008, 10:00 AM

lol....silly

honeychile · #94 07-07-2008, 11:49 AM

I have to admit, I thought it was overblown until I saw the trailers. I would have absolutely FREAKED had it been my GLO! I think every ZTA has a right to be offended, if she wishes to be.

On the other hand, if the movie is a huge hit, maybe it could work in ZTA's favor. For your sakes, I hope so!

DSTCHAOS · #95 07-07-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by heyitszeta

Sure!

Name: Zeta Tau Zeta (Zeta Alpha Zeta...yeah, pretty close, haha)

Colors: Royal Blue and Gold (in the movie they are turquoise and yellow)

As a side note, our main shirts are the exact shirt worn in the movie, except obviously with ZTZ instead of ZAZ, and the lettering is royal blue instead of turquoise.

We refer to our members as Zetas and our facility as Zeta House. Our house has both our letters and the word ZETA on it (in the preview the house also has both).

We have been using the term Zeta and Zetas to conduct business for nearly 100 years as well. It is very similar to ZTZ, however we figure anyone with a brain will figure out that the movie is fictional, and no, we are not the same sorority as in the movie. We also believe that anyone who wants to use the word term "ZETA" certainly may. After all, it is just a letter in the Greek alphabet.

My fraternity is local, and one of the authors of the movie attended my (very small) college. During the time she was at my school, Zeta was having trouble keeping numbers up, and ended up deactivating and reactivating. The plot line in this story is that Zeta Alpha Zeta is not able to keep their numbers up and they are risking losing their charter...sound familiar? Our alumnae came to homecoming this past year and told us about this movie and that the author didn't want to make it blatantly about us, so she altered names and colors slightly. We all had a good laugh about it, because, as texas*princess so eloquently worded it:

Sweet!!! Thanks for the lesson. Interesting, indeed.

Local trumps National.

SthrnZeta · #96 07-07-2008, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Even if you are right and one of the movie's screenwriters based ZAZ on ZTZ and changed things so that ZTZ wasn't identifiable, don't you see why another group would be mad if those changes pointed to them instead. I think ZTZ is safe to feel okay about it...only people from Occidental college know who you are and will probably not think the girls of ZAZ in the movie represent the co-ed ZTZ. On the other hand, most people will see ZETA in turquoise and think ZTA who has used the name ZETA and the color turquoise in its chapters all over the US for 100 years. There is a higher likelihood that they will be identified as the chapter in the movie not ZTZ. So, cut ZTA some slack for being a little upset.

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Local trumps National.

Hardly....

They clearly use our colors and our nickname and ZTZ has only been around since 1926 - ZTA since 1898. We're far more widely known than a small local chapter and I seriously doubt anyone outside of Oxy's area would think of ZTZ before ZTA, especially with the many "coincidences" in this movie.

And those are just from the preview... who knows what all is in the movie.

Senusret I · #97 07-07-2008, 05:00 PM

So I guess a group of black girls calling themselves Zetas since 1920 isn't "confusingly similar"....lol

SthrnZeta · #98 07-07-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

So I guess a group of black girls calling themselves Zetas since 1920 isn't "confusingly similar"....lol

Nope, it's pretty clear who they're talking about when they're in blue and grey letters and they drop the E out of ZeTA...

BabyPiNK_FL · #99 07-07-2008, 05:39 PM

Don't forget about the Phi Iota Mus! (Which I'm pretty sure are represented by pink-they have been so far)...

SthrnZeta · #**100** 07-07-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Don't forget about the Phi Iota Mus! (Which I'm pretty sure are represented by pink-they have been so far)...

Good call - I hear they refer to themselves as Phi Mu in the movie...

AGDee · #**101** 07-07-2008, 06:17 PM

These types of things are part of the reason that so many groups have moved to Greek Licensing. It was explained to us that if you do not show effort to protect your trademarks, then you can lose a battle over them. I wouldn't blame either group for trying to fight the use of their letters/colors/nicknames although the movie reminds me of the Bad News Bears or Mighty Ducks of the sorority world, where the underdogs end up reigning.

AU_ZTA86 · #**102** 07-07-2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

Which she did not go through because she is not your sister.

Oops - that's what I get when reading before my first cup of coffee

heyitszeta · #**103** 07-07-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Even if you are right and one of the movie's screenwriters based ZAZ on ZTZ and changed things so that ZTZ wasn't identifiable, don't you see why another group would be mad if those changes pointed to them instead. I think ZTZ is safe to feel okay about it...only people from Occidental college know who you are and will probably not think the girls of ZAZ in the movie represent the co-ed ZTZ. On the other hand, most people will see ZETA in turquoise and think ZTA who has used the name ZETA and the color turquoise in its chapters all over the US for 100 years. There is a higher likelihood that they will be identified as the chapter in the movie not ZTZ. So, cut ZTA some slack for being a little upset.

What about the incoming freshman this year? What if they see this movie and it seriously hurts our chances of meeting our quota? Then is it enough harm? Or should we feel safe enough because there is a higher likelihood that the rest of the nation would think ZTA? If the movie portrays the Zetas badly, it could certainly have an effect on the PNMs. If we did choose to be upset about this, would you think that we are as justified as ZTA, or would you say that because we are a local our concerns are not as important?

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

And there you have it.

As I was once told as a teenager, the world doesn't revolve around my ***hole.

Love it.

I'm not here to argue with anyone whether the movie points toward one sorority or another, I'm only here to show that things are not always as they seem. And finally, if ZTA really is the upstanding sorority you all claim it is (that is not meant to sound sarcastic, we don't have a ZTA chapter here so I wouldn't know personally), you shouldn't have any problems. You should know that you have the pick of thousands of girls who want to join your top-notch sorority, and you shouldn't be worried OR offended by a fictional piece of work that would only change the minds of people too dumb to join anyway. Do you really want someone in your sorority who can't tell the difference between fiction and reality, and allows MTV to make their decisions for them?

SWTXBelle · #**104** 07-07-2008, 09:04 PM

I'm really tired of people appointing themselves the "offense police". If members wish to be upset that their letters, colors, and nicknames have been appropriated for a movie which does not represent the organization, who are you to tell them that they have no right to be upset? GLOs go to a great deal of trouble to copyright and protect their good names. There are legal ramifications if they do not. In the case of Zeta Tau Alpha and Phi Mu we are talking about literally hundreds of thousands of members. Just because you don't care doesn't mean they must fall in line with your way of thinking - what is the quote, the world doesn't revolve around your . . . opinion.

Senusret I · #**105** 07-07-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I'm really tired of people appointing themselves the "offense police". If members wish to be upset that their letters, colors, and nicknames have been appropriated for a movie which does not represent the organization, who are you to tell them that they have no right to be upset? GLOs go to a great deal of trouble to copyright and protect their good names. There are legal ramifications if they do not. In the case of Zeta Tau Alpha and Phi Mu we are talking about literally hundreds of thousands of members. Just because you don't care doesn't mean they must fall in line with your way of thinking - what is the quote, the world doesn't revolve around your . . . opinion.

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