Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

You obviously know nothing about this topic and should just stop with these kind of remarks. People of African descent all over the world have a great deal in common so just stop please. I've been to Germany 3 times now courtesy of my workplace which is global and based out of Germany. I have met and socialized with Black people there (some of which are my colleagues) and I can tell you that you are so WRONG WRONG WRONG! Just like other ethnic groups, we embrace our heritage wherever we reside.

I've lived there for over a half a year.

I have good black German friends.

They are completely different than Black Americans in nearly every aspect except for how they dress.

There is no "pan-African" similarities. To believe otherwise is simply retarded. Yes, there are commonalities. Because they're humans and humans, believe it or not, have a lot in common with other humans. The fact that black Americans pretend like they have any connection to Africa is absolutely absurd.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

The fact that black Americans pretend like they have any connection to Africa is absolutely absurd.

So Italian-Americans, X-generations removed from Italy, for example, absolutely do not (and should not) have any connection to Italy. Or anyone who has been in America for many a generations yet their ancestors originating from another country?

There are differences, sure, but sometimes were more alike than we want to believe.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by tld221

So Italian-Americans, X-generations removed from Italy, for example, absolutely do not (and should not) have any connection to Italy. Or anyone who has been in America for many a generations yet their ancestors originating from another country?

Soror don't even bother. Elephant Walk knows more than any of us could possibly know about Black culture around the world and our connection to eachother and to our heritage, because he has Black friends and has obviously done his research. He is here to enlighten us all and we should be greatful.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Soror don't even bother. Elephant Walk knows more than any of us could possibly know about Black culture around the world and our connection to eachother and to our heritage, because he has Black friends and has obviously done his research. He is here to enlighten us all and we should be greatful.

Of course - how could i forget?

P.s. Lived in Germany for two years... we're >here<

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I've lived there for over a half a year

I have good black German friends.

They are completely different than Black Americans in nearly every aspect except for how they dress.

"Some of my best friends are black Germans. SO I KNOW!!!"

You're incorrect about your assertions. Period.

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

There is no "pan-African" similarities.

You're wrong.

You went from being an expert on every Greek system to being the expert on German blacks and Pan-African relations just because you spent almost a year in Germany? Your selective observations don't matter to the issue at hand. Give it a rest.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I just saw your comment but yes, yes, yes. When will people get it?! When they educate themselves maybe?!

They don't have to educate themselves because it ultimately doesn't matter if they get it. They just need to stop inserting their false expertise.

[Little32]

You mean I am not an expert on South America because of my Brazilian, Venezualan, and Argentinian friends. No wonder those LAS departments wouldn't hire me.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Little32

You mean I am not an expert on South America because of my Brazilian, Venezualan, and Argentinian friends. No wonder those LAS departments wouldn't hire me.

hehe...you just need to strengthen that resume`!

It's like the white people who say racism is dead because "I have black friends who say they never feel racism. In fact, I don't even see them as black!"

[Little32]

^^I guess. But unlike some folks I know, I want my CV to only represent my actual expertise.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Little32

^^I guess. But unlike some folks I know, I want my CV to only represent my actual expertise.

Agreed. My CV doesn't list my friendships as field research or professional development.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

You know, I mentioned it because I see QNXi members on here upset all the time because another organization shares two letters (Phi Nu Xi, I believe?). By those standards, as an Alpha Sigma Tau, I
should be VERY angry about Alpha Sigma Alpha! How dare they?? Copycats! In all seriousness, however, this is relative to my point - you can't ASSUME they're copying you. You don't KNOW that. And until you can say, with 100% certainty, that they are deliberately infringing on QNXi, then I find it a bit presumptuous to accuse them of it.

This statement proves that you absolutely do not know what you're talking about. We know with 100% certainty that these women were DELIBERATELY infringing on TNX. I find it a bit presumptuous that you would make this statement without ever asking the members of TNX on this board why their response was what it was.

Originally Posted by fantASTic

As far as using specific terminology, refer to my last post - the deliberate use of the word 'incorporated', using the term 'aspirants', etc are all directly from the NPHC...and I've seen them used by MCGLOs on this board repeatedly. I don't have anything against QNXi - don't get me wrong, I think MCGLOs can be great - but I do see a lot of hypocrisy sometimes.

Yet another instance of you not knowing what you're talking about. Not all NPHC orgs use the term. And because of how our process is, that is what they are, aspirants.

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Basically, my overall point here is that: a). You can never assume someone is copying you

I agree with you that you can't make the assumption. But when a former pledge/interest/interest group becomes the founder of a new GLO that "shares" all/parts of the pre-exisiting organization's surface characterisitics, then one doesn't need a good deal of critical thinking skills to see what is going on. Those familiar with the pre-exisiting orgs and their "identity" can pick up things a lot quicker than those that aren't.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

It's like the white people who say racism is dead because "I have black friends who say they never feel racism. In fact, I don't even see them as black!"

People always seem to have some "fact" to back up their inane comments.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by Ch2tf

This statement proves that you absolutely do not know what you're talking about. We know with 100% certainty that these women were DELIBERATELY infringing on TNX. I find it a bit presumptuous that you would make this statement without ever asking the members of TNX on this board why their response was what it was.



Yet another instance of you not knowing what you're talking about. Not all NPHC orgs use the term. And because of how our process is, that is what they are, aspirants.



I agree with you that you can't make the assumption. But when a former pledge/interest/interest group becomes the founder of a new GLO that "shares" all/parts of the pre-exisiting organization's surface characterisitics, then one doesn't need a good deal of critical thinking skills to see what is going on. Those familiar with the pre-exisiting orgs and their "identity" can pick up things a lot quicker than those that aren't.

And, daggone, soror. I'mma get outta your way.

[BlueNYC2]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Soror don't even bother. Elephant Walk knows more than any of us could possibly know about Black culture around the world and our connection to eachother and to our heritage, because he has Black friends and has obviously done his research. He is here to enlighten us all and we should be greatful.

lol...

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

"Some of my best friends are black Germans. SO I KNOW!!!"

You're incorrect about your assertions. Period.

Prove it.

At this point you'll generally sulk off and call me an idiot with no way to back it up. For you to believe that black Americans with absolutely no connection to Africa (...how long's it been...7 generations?) has commonalities in terms of personality or otherwise (besides being human) you would have to believe in nature over nurture. That you are born with innate tendencies that span cultural lines. If you believe that, then you're laughable to begin with. I have absolutely no connections with my German/English/French/Dutch relatives and many of my ancestors came to this country long after yours likely did.

You're wrong.

You went from being an expert on every Greek system to being the expert on German blacks and Pan-African relations just because you spent almost a year in Germany? Your selective observations don't matter to the issue at hand. Give it a rest.

Your ability to manipulate what I said is mindboggling. It's a selective observation which provides an example to a much grander observation.

So Italian-Americans, X-generations removed from Italy, for example, absolutely do not (and should not) have any connection to Italy. Or anyone who has been in America for many a generations yet their ancestors originating from another country?

*smack*

To begin with, many if not most "African"-Americans have no idea what country they came from. Even further, it wouldn't matter because the country was not important because it only reflected colonial boundaries and not tribal boundaries. Tribal boundaries are a far more important way of discovering your ancestors histories because it would lead you to what sort of foods they ate and the religions they practiced. Furthermore, Italian-Americans who are proud of their heritage tend to be recent immigrants (early 1900's), just a few generations removed from their homeland. Whereas "African"-Americans are what...seven generations removed? More? My Grandma regularly spoke German in the house. Of what connection do I have to Germany? I've never lived there. My German is terrible.