BGLO Brother/Sister History

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Phrozen1ne

Well could have something do with wanting to be independent. I have seen situations where certain orgs will try to clown sororities who acknowledge bonds with certain frats. They will state things like, "we don't have to stand behind men like you do, we are independent strong women." That is the pg rated version....

I've heard people say that. That does make sense though. All through undergrad I used to think it was all national.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Other Alpha/Delta marriages:

Sadie T.M. Alexander and Raymond Pace Alexander
Paul Robeson and Eslanda Goode Robeson
Ruby Dee and Frank Dee (HA! Betcha didn't know there was somebody before Ossie Davis!)
Marion Barry and Cora Masters Barry (Ex-Wife #4)

I didn't. That's new to me.

[mccoyred]

From the beginning, Delta has chosen to not officially affiliate with any other Greek organization. As mentioned, we have unofficial bonds with both Omega and Alpha but there are others as well. Just listen to our Sweetheart Song, we love them all!!

[Senusret I]

^^^Our songbook has many, many sweetheart songs. We have one that reminds me of you all's in that it mentions sororities by name. I wish I could read music -- I have no idea what it sounds like.

[Blessed2bDST]

Originally Posted by Phrozen1ne

Another bit of history for you P.B.

Delta Founder Osceola Macarthy married Beta Chapter Brother Numa P.G. Adams.

Delta Founder Vashti Turley married Beta Chapter Brother Carl Murphy.

You left one Delta Founder out: Naomi Sewell Richardson was married to Clarence Richardson. I believe he was initiated at Beta Chapter as well. :-)

[Senusret I]

^^^ You are better than me. I left that one out because I never knew his first name was Clarence, lol

[AKA2D '91]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

For example, my history book mentions the Alphas assisting the AKAs in a way that is not mentioned in their history book; theirs mentions the possible inspiration/moral support of George Lyle on Ethel Hedgeman at Howard University. Neither book goes so far as to claim a brother/sister relationship.

I don't know what's in ya'lls history book, so...
:whatever:

But I have to admit from first hand experience the current international president of AKA seemed to have more "sisterly" sort of interaction with our national president, moreso than the other sorority presidents (as observed at the last two public programs I've attended).

That's no big deal. I've seen her, first hand rather chummy and "sisterly" with the National President of Kappa Alpha Psi and the Dean of Student Life @ Xavier (male).

Our Immediate past National President and KAY's Immediate past President dated in College and they too were chummy and "sisterly" at events.

Will it constitute that we will have official bonds with the organizations they represent? More than likely not.

[AKA2D '91]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

As mentioned, we have unofficial bonds with both Omega and Alpha but there are others as well. Just listen to our Sweetheart Song, we love them all!!

So true!

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

I don't know what's in ya'lls history book, so...
:whatever:

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

LG where are you???

I'm here - LOL. Yes one couple married and divorced (the Colemans.) The other couple did not marry.

Although the extent of the Omegas help in our founding has been greatly exaggerated, what they did do was offer advice as to how to get HU to accept the sorority. They based it on their own experiences in trying to get founded.

And the choice of the purple violet as our official flower was PARTLY in recognition of the Omegas help. However, we have never had a constitutional (official) bond as sisters and brothers the way that the Sigmas and Zetas do.

And as already mentioned, it appears that early on there were more founders, national presidents, etc. that married Alphas than Omegas.

ETA: Although I love the Omegas, I will correct any that call me soror. That is strictly reserved for initiates of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.

[Phrozen1ne]

I didn't know that.

Originally Posted by Blessed2bDST

You left one Delta Founder out: Naomi Sewell Richardson was married to Clarence Richardson. I believe he was initiated at Beta Chapter as well. :-)

[Phrozen1ne]

Originally Posted by AKA2D '91

I don't know what's in ya'lls history book, so...
:whatever:

Exactly. That is why you were just told what our history book stated.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I chat with a GC friend of mine (SGRho) via e-mail and we were talking about Kappa and SGRho Indiana history. She told me some things I had no clue about.

Such as what? I'm curious because I always thought the Kappa/SGRho "Indiana Love" was more of a superficial notion because of the founded in Indiana thing than anything historically more substantive than that.

Personally, I'm not too keen about Kappa being "encumbered" to any one sorority as a "sister" org. I like the more commonly accepted notion by brothers that "Kappa loves 'em all".

Besides, being a member of Alpha Phi Omega and having an unofficial sister sorority (Gamma Sigma Sigma--well technically 2 if you count Omega Phi Alpha), I know firsthand that the whole brother/sister org "relationship" can be easily taken advantage of by manipulative members of either org.

[jojapeach]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Personally, I'm not too keen about Kappa being "encumbered" to any one sorority as a "sister" org. I like the more commonly accepted notion by brothers that "Kappa loves 'em all".

I feel exactly the same away about Sigma. I also have the same viewpoint of being independent. That's just moi. Different members have different views on Indiana Love, and the debate could go on forever and ever. Amen.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I know firsthand that the whole brother/sister org "relationship" can be easily taken advantage of by manipulative members of either org.

I've seen it a couple of times in regard to Sigma and Kappa.

[DSTCHAOS]

PrettyBoy, aren't you too old to be thinking of this?

I still can't figure out why Alphas always want to run down what Apes from Beta the Delta Founders dated or married. Some even commit it to memory hoping to run across some Coleman Love-folk and throw it in our faces. Why does it matter? If the Delta Founders had married the actual founders of a fraternity, that may be worth noting. Other than that, their dating and marrying history is just that.

That's the only thing that makes me chuckle about this topic. Other than that, woopteydoo.