Do you just eat it or send it back?

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Yeah, while there is some truth in that, it's still worse without gloves. As long as they're only touching the food and not handling money, or touching the counter or each other, then golves are ok.

Think about it. When someone uses the bathroom they should wash their hands for at least 5-7 minutes. At least I think that's what the standard is supposed to be. Usually people don't wash no more than 5 seconds. There is so much bacteria still on their hands.

There's a bit more than "some" truth to it, and I have thought about it, on numerous occasions. Apparently, so have a lot of other people. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/di...gewanted=print

One quote that stuck out to me was:

"Moreover, most gloves are made of latex, a component of natural rubber. Particles of latex can cause allergic reactions not only among people wearing the gloves but also among customers eating food prepared by them. As a result, three states have banned latex gloves in restaurants. In New York a bill has been introduced in the Legislature requiring warning signs in restaurants that use latex gloves."

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

There's a bit more than "some" truth to it, and I have thought about it, on numerous occasions. Apparently, so have a lot of other people. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/di...gewanted=print

One quote that stuck out to me was:

"Moreover, most gloves are made of latex, a component of natural rubber. Particles of latex can cause allergic reactions not only among people wearing the gloves but also among customers eating food prepared by them. As a result, three states have banned latex gloves in restaurants. In New York a bill has been introduced in the Legislature requiring warning signs in restaurants that use latex gloves."

Kathy, thanks for that and I liked the article, but most food places don't use latex gloves. I don't really think I've been to eat anywhere where latex gloves were being used. I usually see the clear gloves being used. I'm not sure what kind they are though. I know that some people can have an allergic reaction to the chemicals used on the gloves, but would you rather eat that, or bacteria found in feces and urine?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

And maybe if people weren't such cheap asses and understood how to show monetary appreciation to someone who is providing them a service, then serving wouldn't be such a shitty job.

It would still be a shitty job.

That's "in general." Many servers absolutely love what they do for a living.

They need the Server's Union to make the public more aware of the dynamics of tipping. Most of us already know it's up to 15% and that tipping is part of good etiquette and humanity. But we don't know who gets the tips in every establishment and tax stuff.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by LeslieAGD

I've never worked in the restaurant business and I guess I am learning some things by reading this thread...I very rarely order out from restaurants (other than pizza), but when I do I don't tip the hostess/counterperson that hands me the food. It's just that these days, EVERYONE is looking to get a tip. There are tip cups on every counter from the coffee shops and ice cream places, to the fast food counters and everyday stores. It's ridiculous! I'm sorry but unless you are providing me with a personal service (ie - serving my food, cutting my hair, delivering something to my home, or parking my car), I don't think you deserve my money.

That is such a pet peeve of mine as well. Every establishment does not need a tip jar.

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

And maybe if people weren't such cheap asses and understood how to show monetary appreciation to someone who is providing them a service, then serving wouldn't be such a shitty job.

I'm playing the world's smallest violin right now....

if serving is a shitty job get another one...

a lot of people that I know serve because its flexible and they say that they make decent money..I wanted more then decent money so I secured a job that affords me as such...anyone can do it...I'm far from cheap, but I'm not going to just give my money away either...bottom line cuz this horse is just about dead is we're not going to agree...I personally wouldn't attempt to support my child/household on a job that depended on tips..God bless those who do...

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

That is such a pet peeve of mine as well. Every establishment does not need a tip jar.

It almost makes me feel obligated to tip when there's a jar there.

[kathykd2005]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Kathy, thanks for that and I liked the article, but most food places don't use latex gloves. I don't really think I've been to eat anywhere where latex gloves were being used. I usually see the clear gloves being used. I'm not sure what kind they are though. I know that some people can have an allergic reaction to the chemicals used on the gloves, but would you rather eat that, or bacteria found in feces and urine?

The clear gloves have chemicals in them, too. And I'd rather see people wash their hands, religiously. Read the article.

[cheerfulgreek]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

The clear gloves have chemicals in them, too. And I'd rather see people wash their hands, religiously. Read the article.

I know they do, and I read the article. It was good.

I would like to see people wash their hands religiously too, but that's a bit unrealistic. They don't wash their hands, so I would rather eat the chemicals instead of feces, and urine, and whatever else is on their hands.

[KappaKittyCat]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

If you were picking up carry out for my restaurant (I think you know which one) or Red Robin or wherever, it is still a server- or at least manager- who is putting the order together. (ie: preparing salads, pouring soup, preparing desserts, bagging up food).

Good point. I guess I never thought of it that way.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by OOhsoflyDELTA#9

I'm playing the world's smallest violin right now....

if serving is a shitty job get another one...

a lot of people that I know serve because its flexible and they say that they make decent money..I wanted more then decent money so I secured a job that affords me as such...anyone can do it...I'm far from cheap, but I'm not going to just give my money away either...bottom line cuz this horse is just about dead is we're not going to agree...I personally wouldn't attempt to support my child/household on a job that depended on tips..God bless those who do...

Well I'm glad that you are so fortunate to have found a secure job, because here in Michigan it's all some people have. Some people hate serving, but it's the best they can do to get food on the table for their families, or to get them through college, or to pay their rent. You personally wouldn't do it. I wouldn't either. We're fortunate that we don't have to. But others have no choice. I think you're just making excuses for being cheap.

[OOhsoflyDELTA#9]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Well I'm glad that you are so fortunate to have found a secure job, because here in Michigan it's all some people have. Some people hate serving, but it's the best they can do to get food on the table for their families, or to get them through college, or to pay their rent. You personally wouldn't do it. I wouldn't either. We're fortunate that we don't have to. But others have no choice. I think you're just making excuses for being cheap.

umm ok. nighty nite....

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Most of the time if it was a small mistake (like if I ask for no onions and it comes back with onions) I will just fix it myself (e.g. take the onions off) and eat it.

The other night when I was out to dinner with girlfriends, my dish came out with red onions and a ton of jalepenos on top as garnish. I absolutely hate red onions, and I can't handle jalepenos like that. I removed them from the food and had to put them on my bread plate, which I don't appreciate having to do in a restaurant. So when the waiter came over a few minutes later, I kindly suggested to him that they should not just "garnish" the top of food with things not included on the menu. Especially not with onions, which many people are allergic to (on the side of the dish would've been ok, but this was across the whole top of the food). In this case, the server seemed to really appreciate my suggestion due to the food allergies their customers may have.

It is a huge pet peeve of mine when the meal I ordered comes out with extra or different main ingrediants than what is described on the menu. After all, I decide which dish to order based on the description in the menu!

Servers should see these comments as ultimately helping save their jobs. If many dishes have to be re-done every night, that's a lot of inventory the restaurant is going through for no profit. MOST restaurants will fail...they don't need help from inattentive chefs and servers. If I'm spending my money to have someone cook and serve me a meal, I expect the server to record my order correctly, the chef to cook it to order, and the server to ensure that what they deliver to me is in fact what they sent up to the kitchen. If I ask for no avacado and tomatoes on my salad, I expect the server to notice the mistake if my salad comes out with tomatoes and avacados. That is what they're being paid for...it's pretty much the totality of their job!

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by KappaKittyCat

There's a difference between being picky and having a medical condition.

That was exactly the point. I would not send food back if it had something on it that I asked to be taken off because I'm not allergic to anything. But if someone with an allergy asks for something to be taken off and it's not, then that's perfect cause to send it back. Whether or not it was their fault for not making it clear they had a medical reason for not eating it is irrelevant--I was pointing out that they still had reason to send it back without being seen as rude.

Cheerful--Wendy's always puts onions on my sandwiches when I ask them not to, so I feel you! Arby's is 50/50 on that.

[BabyPiNK_FL]

Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek

Kathy, thanks for that and I liked the article, but most food places don't use latex gloves. I don't really think I've been to eat anywhere where latex gloves were being used. I usually see the clear gloves being used. I'm not sure what kind they are though. I know that some people can have an allergic reaction to the chemicals used on the gloves, but would you rather eat that, or bacteria found in feces and urine?

As someone who worked with gloves in both jobs (one food one not) the gloves are vinyl and are a safer (and better smelling/feeling on your hands) choice than latex any day.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

That was exactly the point. I would not send food back if it had something on it that I asked to be taken off because I'm not allergic to anything. But if someone with an allergy asks for something to be taken off and it's not, then that's perfect cause to send it back. Whether or not it was their fault for not making it clear they had a medical reason for not eating it is irrelevant--I was pointing out that they still had reason to send it back without being seen as rude.

Cheerful--Wendy's always puts onions on my sandwiches when I ask them not to, so I feel you! Arby's is 50/50 on that.

My point was that people shouldn't have to tell every waiter in a restaurant about food allergies or medical conditions if according to the menu their dish is not supposed to have the food in question on it. I had no reason to think that red onion and jalepenos would be put all over the top of my pasta dish, so I never would've thought to tell the waiter to keep onions and jalepenos away. But I'm getting REALLY tired of having my order completely ignored and my food brought out NOT as I ordered it. It is gross and rude for me to pick apart my salad/sandwich/pasta/entree to remove the pieces I asked to NOT be included.

And when I tell a server to "hold the tomatoes" or whatever, I shouldn't have to tell them I have a food allergy in order to make it happen. If it's such a pain in the ass for that establishment, there are plenty of other places I can get a great meal and service.