Another new sorority... Iota Theta Eta???

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Kelouis75

Some people think partying throughout the week then dragging yourself into church on Sunday is living the Christian life. However, they are truly uneducated. Many times throughout the bible it talks against drunkeness, fornication-- both things greek life is known for. We're providing an alternative.

Do you really believe that a woman cannot be a member of a traditional Greek org (NPC or NPHC) without drinking or having sex? Do you really believe that underage drinking and irresponsible sexual choices are encouraged by the national offices of national organizations, or that they're endorsed by the creeds of our organizations?

Are you this judgemental about your family members who are members of NPHC groups? Or just about their national organizations?

[Senusret I]

The ladies of Iota Theta Eta didn't start this silly conversation. And I think people let it rip because they did not know it would get back to us... That seems like gossip to me...

What makes you think any of us would care if it got back to you? This is GreekChat -- nobody is going to walk on eggshells for you or your ilk.

he he, i said ilk.


Some people think partying throughout the week then dragging yourself into church on Sunday is living the Christian life. However, they are truly uneducated. Many times throughout the Bible it talks against drunkeness, fornication-- both things greek life is known for. We're providing an alternative.

A real alternative wouldn't be Greek at all. And as a sidenote, I think there are Christian fraternities and sororities with a much stronger foundation than yours. I think y'all are just the offspring of founderitis.

FYI, I've had many ops to join a D9 (NPHC) sorority.. being that both my mom and my aunt are in the greek system. I choose not to for the above reasons.

A lot of people have "ops" to join NPHC sororities. The websites are public as are interest meetings. But your mom and your aunt aren't you, and somehow I think they're glad you're in the bargain bin of greek orgs.

As for the Omicron-- yes, it looks exactly like an "o". The line inside of the theta makes it "different". And gets people asking... Again, I need not waste anymore time on this matter. There are more important things to do. But people who want to contribute to our mission and purpose will join and see the truth. We are humble women, who love the Lord, AND who are providing a real alternative to "traditional" greek life. For God's grace we are growing each season. Our lines are getting longer. Praise Him!


All this is just crazy talk.


Why so much talk about such a small org anyway if the people who are getting riled up did not feel threatened?

Yes, the entirety of Greek life is threatened by your lack of understanding of the Greek Alphabet.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Kelouis75

I'm sorry you feel that way especially since you call yourself a sister in Christ. And not all churches have women's ministries... Mine for example.

The ladies of Iota Theta Eta didn't start this silly conversation. And I think people let it rip because they did not know it would get back to us... That seems like gossip to me...

Some people think partying throughout the week then dragging yourself into church on Sunday is living the Christian life. However, they are truly uneducated. Many times throughout the Bible it talks against drunkeness, fornication-- both things greek life is known for. We're providing an alternative.

FYI, I've had many ops to join a D9 (NPHC) sorority.. being that both my mom and my aunt are in the greek system. I choose not to for the above reasons.

As for the Omicron-- yes, it looks exactly like an "o". The line inside of the theta makes it "different". And gets people asking... Again, I need not waste anymore time on this matter. There are more important things to do. But people who want to contribute to our mission and purpose will join Why so much talk about such a small org anyway if the people who are and see the truth. We are humble women, who love the Lord, AND who are providing a real alternative to "traditional" greek life. For God's grace we are growing each season. Our lines are getting longer. Praise Him!

getting riled up did not feel threatened?

Ya see I was going to be cool and just lay back in the cut and let this conversation go wherever it's going but the bold text is exactly what I have a problem with. Some people have the same things to say about the many church going hypocrites (some of which are in orgs like yours), so why feed into the stereotypes? I have no problem with anyone joining an organization of their choice; it can be the ABCD org for all I care but trying to promote yourself as the "alternative" to NPHC or other GLO's is the problem. We all know that there are "sinners" and "saints" lurking everywhere, in every organization and congregation but no one has the right to stereotype unfairly. If our orgs weren't for you...great but you will get no love on greekchat with a "holier than thou" attitude. If your org is so great, than let it speak for itself, no need to make comparisons and present yourself as the great "alternative." Just do you and let your good works and deeds speak for you. Putting other orgs down to lift yours up does nothing but make you and your org look bad. There are plenty of greeks on this board that are not members of NPHC, NPC, MGC, or any other popular greek council and they are able to get along just fine with everyone and they are accepted because they don't seek to put others down in order to lift themselves up. And lastly, I'm not really sure why you and others like you are on this board anyway since we're all a bunch of Heathens. We're all a bunch of Heathens yet you seek to follow after us and do what we do, right? And don't get me wrong, if I were you I would have defended my organization too but the "holier than thou" attitude...you could have left it out because it's a serious turn off. Now if you want to start over, welcome to greekchat.

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by Kelouis75

Now run along... Why waste your time making fun of people when you have important work in the community to do?

RITY?

Recruitment, is this you?

/And your mystery twin, too?

[adpiucf]

Ok, me again....

I'll bite. I think it's great that another non-collegiate community sorority has formed if it filling a niche, which it appears it has. I think that's very good. I don't like the implication on their web site that they are above other GLOs, but I do think the fact that they have chosen Greek letters says a lot: imitation is the highest form of flattery after all. And it appears they're a sisterhood composed of women empowering other women-- a very honorable undertaking not unlike the many other collegiate and community GLO's out there. I think that is great.

For anyone new to Greek Chat, welcome. This is a public message board where people are, for the most part, free to say what they want. If you don't like it, take your ball and go home. That's just how we roll here and it works for 99% of the folks here.

[liveit07]

Heathens? Holier than thou attitudes? Apparently, none of you fully
understand what Christian organizations are about. First of all the
organization, just like the church, are the people that form it. The
organization is Iota Theta Eta.... "ITE" for those that did not
understand. There is a play on letters being that the Theta is
shaped like an O - I owe Him...He died for me so I live for Him"
That is all... there is no deeper explanation. Yes, This is an
organization founded by One person, I am not sure why the criticism
on that note? Anyhow, the founder, as all Christian women do, has a
personal relationship with a Her Lord and Savior. Through prayer and
meditation - which most Christian women do - she had an idea, a
dream, and she went to her Father (heavenly of course) for
permission and confirmation. That is all, that is all the divine
inspiration one needs. It is nothing difficult to understand there.

Unlike some other organizations, ITE is strictly Bible based. This
is a group of women that joined together in the bonds of Christian
Unity to build each other up, empower each other and to support each
other in our faith. That is the Alternative part....It has
absolutely nothing to do with Academics, it is Community Based, it
is not a "be what you want to be", "how you want to be", "when and
where you want to be" type thing. These are women STRIVING to live
for God's purpose. Notice the striving. These women are not holier
than though, nor have that attitude, frankly I can't stand that
either. They can really care less where you are on your PERSONAL
spiritual journey with God as long as you are striving to live for
His purpose. If you fall as we all do, there is now someone to lift
you up. Yes, sometimes you can find this type of thing in our
churches, however, unfortunately the church has more of those holier
than though type attitudes you speak of in this chatroom, than
anyone really wants to deal with. This is not a fake thing. It is
not a you vs me thing, this is a God thing and no one is going to
distract us from this. We are learning more about how we live,
learning more about how we should live and keeping each other
company in Christ through His Word.

There are some of us that have been involved in other Greek Letter
Organizations and to tell you the truth, it has absoluetley nothing
to do with you. No one is dogging anyone out, the way I have seen us
dogged out here. The difference between This organization and many
others, is that we are all about our walks with Christ and
empowering each other to stay on that path.

Oh, as for the chapter names...It is not a Greek thing.... Alpha and
Omega....God is the Alpha and the Omega... the beginning and the
end.... No need to further explain that one...As for the words in
between look them up, if you like, for their biblical reference and
to what they mean.

Our spirituality is not a joke. We can not speak for other Christian
Fraternities and Sororities, because even with them, there will be
differences and similarities. But that does not make us enemies...We
are all Sisters and Brothers in Christ and should love each other
accordingly. Not try to tear each other down for things we don't
undrerstand, nor judge each other. BTW - The reason we are in this
chat room is because someone gave us a heads up that we were being
slammed. So, we came to check it out for ourselves.

Any other information you would like to know, just ask? Nothing is
secretive here. Pics on the website are for our family and friends,
our rituals are open, everything that goes on and is said, you can
read about it in the Holy Bible, doesn't matter what version. There
is nothing for us to hide from or be ashamed to show others. So
anything else on your mind, or perhaps that you don't
understand.. .Please feel free to contact us and ask.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

RITY?

Recruitment, is this you?

/And your mystery twin, too?

I wish. *sigh*

ETA: Here's a quote from the website of the group: "she felt the leading of God to start a sorority for TRUE women of God who are not afraid or ashamed to stand up for Christ and are ready to do the work of the Lord."

My problem is not that the group exists; I think that's fine. It's wonderful to have a solely Christ focused sorority for people who want one. But it's insulting to suggest that members of other Greek organizations can't also be "TRUE women of Gof who are not afraid or ashamed to stand up for Christ and are ready to do the work of the Lord."

Your godliness is great in my opinion; calling all others in GLOs false, afraid or lazy is bad.

It's also problematic to suggest that the actual purpose of sororities is drunkenness and fornication. None of them are about that, period. (That doesn't mean no members are guilty of either, but it has nothing to do with why any of the traditional groups were founded or have at the heart of their organizations.) To hold a group at fault for the sins of its members would be a weird standard to apply even to churches much less GLOs.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

Ok, me again....

I'll bite. I think it's great that another non-collegiate community sorority has formed if it filling a niche, which it appears it has. I think that's very good. I don't like the implication on their web site that they are above other GLOs, but I do think the fact that they have chosen Greek letters says a lot: imitation is the highest form of flattery after all. And it appears they're a sisterhood composed of women empowering other women-- a very honorable undertaking not unlike the many other collegiate and community GLO's out there. I think that is great.

For anyone new to Greek Chat, welcome. This is a public message board where people are, for the most part, free to say what they want. If you don't like it, take your ball and go home. That's just how we roll here and it works for 99% of the folks here.

[SWTXBelle]

Here's the deal - we are not threatened, we are amused. Check out the thread from the beginning. The only people who appear to be threatened are those members who joined this forum for the sole purpose of posting to this one topic. The rest of us - hey, we have a sense of humor, and if you chose to put forth something on the internet that is ignorant, ill-conceived, or self-righteous to the point of lunacy you've got to understand that people will laugh.
I am proud to be both a Christian and a member of the NPC. I've never dragged myself home after partying all night to go to church and thought that made me a good Christian. I am but a poor sinner doing the best I can with God's help.
I am proud that the founders of the NPC sororities paved the way for all women in higher education starting over 140 years ago. Some of those young women were only teenagers, yet their ideals and principles have enabled them to grow, prosper, and give back to the tune of millions of dollars and thousands of hours of service every year.
I am proud that they formed Christian, Jewish and non-sectarian orgs that allow women to improve themselves, their community and their world, no matter what their beliefs. I am proud to have learned more about my NPHC "cousins",whose founders overcame prejudice and lack of opportunities by banding together and making a positive difference in the world. They have grown beyond HB colleges and universities because what they offer is not based on skin color, but on character and worth.
I know of many godly women in both groups. To argue otherwise is to base your understanding on stereotypes, which is ignorant at best, stupid at worse.
Instead of enhancing your "G"LOs newly-forming reputation, you've established it as a group of holier-than-thou DIVAs who use prayer as a form of put-down. Nice.
If you don't care what we say or think, then why join our established forum and come in and comment? Just ignore us . . .as I assure you, after we have our little laugh, we will you.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by liveit07

Heathens? Holier than thou attitudes? Apparently, none of you fully understand what Christian organizations are about. First of all the organization, just like the church, are the people that form it.

No, the Church is the Body of Christ; it is by Scriptural definition more than just the people who form it. Perhaps it is you who do not fully understand what the Christian Church is about?

These women are not holier than though, nor have that attitude . . .

This from someone who said "Apparently, none of you fully understand what Christian organizations are about."

We can not speak for other Christian Fraternities and Sororities, because even with them, there will be differences and similarities. But that does not make us enemies...We are all Sisters and Brothers in Christ and should love each other accordingly. Not try to tear each other down for things we don't undrerstand, nor judge each other.

Perhaps you ought to mention that to your sister Kelouis75, since she said "Many times throughout the Bible it talks against drunkeness, fornication-- both things greek life is known for," or to your friend rhoetagamma, who said "I've recently had fellowship with this organization and I find them to be some of the nicest Greeks I've ever met. People who truly uphold the principles they stand for unlike some other organizations I have been around. It's okay though. We understand everyone does not have the same intimacy with God to hear Him clearly when He calls and appoints you to an assignment."

Oh, and very well-said, SWTXBelle.

[liveit07]

Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
When I said You don't understand - aparently you don't or there would not be so many questions or harsh words. There is nothing wrong with not understanding something...Nor were my words of anything but an opportunity for those that don't know to find out. I am not putting anyone down. There is a way that people take things that are said when you don't undrestand the contents of ones heart, it is easy to misconstrue someones written word. If people stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something.

[Kelouis75]

Originally Posted by liveit07

Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.
When I said You don't understand - aparently you don't or there would not be so many questions or harsh words. There is nothing wrong with not understanding something...Nor were my words of anything but an opportunity for those that don't know to find out. I am not putting anyone down. There is a way that people take things that are said when you don't undrestand the contents of ones heart, it is easy to misconstrue someones written word. If people stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something.

I've tried, but they called me arrogant... LOL.

[liveit07]

It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by liveit07

It seems to me like there are more people that like generalizing an entire group of people based on the thoughts and actions of one.

That's what happens when you have one founder.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by liveit07

Who is the Body of Christ? The Church! Who is the church - the People - Christians. Please, don't try to insult me.

I'm not trying to insult you, although I think I could just as easily ask you not to insult the rest of us. I am taking issue with some of your statements, though.

According to Christian belief, the Church, the Body of Christ, is more than just "the people" or "Christians" -- it is those people who have been engrafted into Christ himself and therefore it has real union with Christ, with the divine. To say that an organization, "just like the church, is the people who form it" suggests that the Church, like any other organization, is simply a human institution. From your last post, I would take it that you would agree with me that while the Church is full of sinners, it is not simply a human institution.

Of course, if the Church -- the one grouping of people on the planet that Christians believe has a divine nature -- has sinners among its ranks, can we expect to find any simply human institutions that isn't made up of sinners? Including GLOs?

You are right that if people "stop trying to be so insulting and try listening, perhaps they will learn something." It goes both ways.