Three Sororities Selected to Present at Northwestern

[TSteven]

Congratulations to AXD, ZTA, and SDT.

[Tom Earp]

[QUOTE=Drolefille;1341046]As such I will decline to translate Earp's post in this thread, however I do them on request.

Does this have to do with anything of posting?

[amycat412]

[QUOTE=Tom Earp;1341061]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

As such I will decline to translate Earp's post in this thread, however I do them on request.

Does this have to do with anything of posting?

Tom, I've already asked that this post be brought back on topic. Please do not contribute to the melee.

[texas*princess]

I will be honest and say I don't know how the whole Greek Affairs-type stuff works when a chapter closes, but based on the article, it sounds like they started looking for another the chapter the second that the ADPi chapter closed.

[farbman]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

I will be honest and say I don't know how the whole Greek Affairs-type stuff works when a chapter closes, but based on the article, it sounds like they started looking for another the chapter the second that the ADPi chapter closed.

For those of you who are curious, ADPi closed at Northwestern due to low membership and a consequent inability to remain financial solvent. A full story can be found at here.

ADPi was recolonized at Northwestern in 2000 and has been suffering from lower than average membership over the past few years. It was the newest sorority colonization at NU.

The extension opportunity provided by Northwestern Panhellenic was a direct result of loosing ADPi and a strong desire to return quotas back to where they were with 12 sororities on campus. All Panhellenic groups not represented at Northwestern were invited to participate in the extension process.

-Eric

[SoCalGirl]

That would make me think that the school needs to stay at eleven chapters. They're too focused on quota and not enough on total, though it doesn't say what total is currently. Adding a 12th chapter only makes quota go down by maybe 4 girls if they have a really huge turnout for formal recruitment. The first article said they're expecting at least 400 to go through FR in the winter. At 400/11=37, 400/12=34. If FR shoots up to 500, it's 500/11=46 and 500/12=42. Unless the average chapter only has 30-50 members then they should be able to handle NM classes of those sizes.

[SoCalGirl]

Alright, I just checked Northwestern's Greek Life website. All the chapters are listed as having 100+ members. They can definitely handle have NM classes of 30-50. IMHO they should wait a couple years before colonizing another chapter.

[adpiucf]

Sounds like there is definitely room to add another sorority. It is a shame ADPi did not work out, but these things happen to every GLO. Sometimes the initial colony cannot sustain the long haul. All the best to the chapters presenting at NU!

[WCUgirl]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

As such I will decline to translate Earp's post in this thread, however I do them on request.

I don't remember the dates from the article, but will it be a while before we know how the presentations went?

The article said the presentations would take place w/in the next thirty days. So, I'm guessing we'll know sometime around Thanksgiving?

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by jessXIca

it's so bizarre to think of sororities that are strong at my school as being weak somewhere else

Keep in mind that Northwestern is in Illinois, not the South. Many of the strong "southern" sororities don't have the same foothold up North. That isn't to say they don't have any successful northern chapters, but they don't enjoy the same identity/advantage that they tend to have in the South. I have a lot of respect for ZTA, but they only have 1 open chapter in Illinois, and 5 closed ones - same as Alpha Xi Delta. SDT has 3 open versus 2 closed. I'm not saying that to be disrespectful or to lobby for one over another, just pointing out that the playing field is probably more even than the ZTA president's comments would lead one to believe. For all 3 groups this would be a recolonization.

ETA: For those who aren't familiar with NU, EVERY NPC on campus is a single-letter designation chapter (i.e. OLD) except for one (Delta Zeta.) It can be difficult for any sorority to compete with that kind of history. ADII originally came on campus in 1945 - that is 64 years after Alpha Phi opened the campus in 1881. NU had 8 sororities before 1900. That can be daunting.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

That would make me think that the school needs to stay at eleven chapters. They're too focused on quota and not enough on total, though it doesn't say what total is currently. Adding a 12th chapter only makes quota go down by maybe 4 girls if they have a really huge turnout for formal recruitment. The first article said they're expecting at least 400 to go through FR in the winter. At 400/11=37, 400/12=34. If FR shoots up to 500, it's 500/11=46 and 500/12=42. Unless the average chapter only has 30-50 members then they should be able to handle NM classes of those sizes.

The poster above you is a boy. As such, I think he may be confusing the meanings of the words "quota" and "total."

It makes more sense to say they want total/ceiling back to where it was and not super duper hella high.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

Alright, I just checked Northwestern's Greek Life website. All the chapters are listed as having 100+ members. They can definitely handle have NM classes of 30-50. IMHO they should wait a couple years before colonizing another chapter.

I tend to agree with this statement. This is exactly the same thing that happened at Pitt, until they utilized Release Figures. Once the playing field is more level, then bring on another sorority, one that has a huge support system (ie: Alumnae Association, etc).

That way, a new GLO has a real chance of making it.

[FSUZeta]

excellent points irishpipes. i was going to look up which chapters(if any) we had open in illinois, but you saved me the trouble- . i wish alpha xi delta and sigma delta tau the best of luck and hope that which ever sorority is chosen, that they flourish.

[pinkyphimu]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

ETA: For those who aren't familiar with NU, EVERY NPC on campus is a single-letter designation chapter (i.e. OLD) except for one (Delta Zeta.) It can be difficult for any sorority to compete with that kind of history. ADII originally came on campus in 1945 - that is 64 years after Alpha Phi opened the campus in 1881. NU had 8 sororities before 1900. That can be daunting.

Wow that is very interesting! Thank you for sharing that info. I wonder if there were other schools that had this much representation by 1900?

[SoCalGirl]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The poster above you is a boy. As such, I think he may be confusing the meanings of the words "quota" and "total."

It makes more sense to say they want total/ceiling back to where it was and not super duper hella high.

It was the article that referred to quota.

Panhel decided to start the process of adding a new Greek chapter to campus to keep membership size and pledge class quotas manageable, Juarez said. A pledge class quota is the maximum number of bids that a chapter can offer, and quota is determined by dividing the number of women participating in recruitment by the number of sororities. Recent quotas have generally been in the thirties.

"There are currently 11 chapters heading into formal recruitment with the largest (freshman) class Northwestern has ever had," Juarez said. "In previous years we had 12 chapters and a smaller freshman class."

If recruitment goes as projected, at least 400 women will join sororities Winter Quarter, said Erin Huffman, assistant director of Fraternity and Sorority Life.