Alleged Rape of NCCU Student: (Duke Scandal)

[Gods Ivy]

Hey I would like to know what you all think about the recent controversy around the black NCCU student stripping for college tuition that was raped and beaten by 4 white Duke University lacrosse players and the party consisted of 40 of the teams members?

[btb87]

Originally posted by Gods Ivy
Hey I would like to know what you all think about the recent controversy around the black college student stripping for college tuition that was raped by 40 white lacrosse players?

Soror, just for the record, that was at Duke, not Central.

[Gods Ivy]

The student that was raped went to central but I can make the correction to include the school the boys went to.

Thanks

[Honeykiss1974]

Rape (regardless of race or occupation) is vile and dispicable. I hope those responsible for such acts are held accountable.

[Gods Ivy]

I agree but the sad thing is that they are not being held accountable. They are still allowed to attend school and have not being suspended. I believe if the situation were turned it would be different. Much different.

[Victor Ziegler]

Originally Posted by Gods Ivy

I agree but the sad thing is that they are not being held accountable. They are still allowed to attend school and have not being suspended. I believe if the situation were turned it would be different. Much different.

I cordially invite Gods Ivy to admit she was wrong in ASSuming these three boys were guilty. The invitation is also extended to all NPHC members who were rushing to judge these boys guilty because of their race.

You were wrong. You were hateful. You perpetuated racism and injustice. You were the opposite of the ideals of your fraternity/sorority.

Now it's time to be men and women and admit that not every black person who accuses a white person of a crime is telling the truth.

Go on, Gods Ivy. Start off the string of apologies for your racist attitude.

[Exquisite5]

Aside from the word "cordially," nothing in this post is well, cordial.

Originally Posted by Victor Ziegler

I cordially invite Gods Ivy to admit she was wrong in ASSuming these three boys were guilty. The invitation is also extended to all NPHC members who were rushing to judge these boys guilty because of their race.

You were wrong. You were hateful. You perpetuated racism and injustice. You were the opposite of the ideals of your fraternity/sorority.

Now it's time to be men and women and admit that not every black person who accuses a white person of a crime is telling the truth.

Go on, Gods Ivy. Start off the string of apologies for your racist attitude.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Exquisite5

Aside from the word "cordially," nothing in this post is well, cordial.

It's like saying "with all due respect"

[Exquisite5]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It's like saying "with all due respect"

Clearly.

My point was that, despite his use of the word, there was nothing cordial or respectful about the post.

[Victor Ziegler]

Originally Posted by Exquisite5

Aside from the word "cordially," nothing in this post is well, cordial.

Criticize all you want, you know I'm right.

I noticed you didn't comment on the three boys innocence. Why? Do you have to admit you are wrong?

Are you incapable of believing that black people commit hate crimes against white people?

Are you the only one allowed to indulge in righteous indignation? And only on your own terms?

The fact that you did not comment on the actual statement speaks volumes. AfAm activists will not be taken seriously for a long time.

[nikki1920]

Um, ok.

Anyway, the charges were dropped. In this specific case, it was the right thing to do.

I hope these young men can recover from the stigma that has falsely been attached to them.

I hope the accuser gets a lot of psychological help.

[Exquisite5]

I never said they were guilty, thus I don't need to admit I was wrong. Bother someone else with your antagonizing nonsense.

With respect to the rest of your post, you assertions are invalid, because there was nothing to "speak volumes" about as I never said they were guilty to begin with. Thus, your initial accusations weren't directed towards me, so why respond? Now that you've directed your bogus accusations towards me, I'm responding.

Originally Posted by Victor Ziegler

Criticize all you want, you know I'm right.

I noticed you didn't comment on the three boys innocence. Why? Do you have to admit you are wrong?

Are you incapable of believing that black people commit hate crimes against white people?

Are you the only one allowed to indulge in righteous indignation? And only on your own terms?

The fact that you did not comment on the actual statement speaks volumes. AfAm activists will not be taken seriously for a long time.

[DLTA22]

Originally Posted by Victor Ziegler

Criticize all you want, you know I'm right.

I noticed you didn't comment on the three boys innocence. Why? Do you have to admit you are wrong?

Are you incapable of believing that black people commit hate crimes against white people?

Are you the only one allowed to indulge in righteous indignation? And only on your own terms?

The fact that you did not comment on the actual statement speaks volumes. AfAm activists will not be taken seriously for a long time.

Disclaimer: This is a long one to read

Correct me if I am wrong, but when did an allegation of rape equate to committing a hate crime. Although I am not a legal expert, allow me to state my opinion. The only persons who truly know the occurrences of that fateful night are the former plaintiff and the defendants. Lets be clear, the charges were dropped by the prosecution, which if I am correct does not equate to an actual acquittal. The charges were dropped for different reasons and although its easy to point the finger at the accuser and say she lied, there are other circumstances to consider such as
- Was there substantial evidence to prove BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT and I stress those words again that the allegations levelled against those players would hold up in trial.

An accusation of rape polarizes men against women and everyone rushes to take sides. Lets not rush to turn this into a false claim of reverse racism (which is actually a misnomer) because if you check the statistics, the overwhelming majority of rapes occur BETWEEN people from the SAME race. So drop the shenanigans...would you have been up in arms the same way had the plaintiff been a White girl.

I recall a case where a women alleged being brutally raped by a "gang" of boys in Central Park and EVERYYYYYYONE was quick to believe her story. After spending more than a decade or so behind bars, come to find out with the help of DNA analysis, ALL of those boys were released when it was determined that they DID NOT do the crime. Where was the social outcry of injustice.....oh yeah the accuser was White so the defendants were presumed guilty until proven innocent. This country has been soooooo brainwashed to flip at the drop of a hat at controversies along the racial divide. Race polarizes people and thats why this case was played up to the highest level. In closing having the charges dropped doesnt necessarily speak to ones innocence, the prosecutor is more culpable than the woman in question.


So stop it with your broad brush statements and for the record social activists from our community don't need or rely on your stamp of approval. This case further supports why women oftentime remain silent about rape rather than report it to the authorities.

Thats my $19.13 cents worth on that......

[BlessedOne04]

Originally Posted by Victor Ziegler

I cordially invite Gods Ivy to admit she was wrong in ASSuming these three boys were guilty. The invitation is also extended to all NPHC members who were rushing to judge these boys guilty because of their race.

You were wrong. You were hateful. You perpetuated racism and injustice. You were the opposite of the ideals of your fraternity/sorority.

Now it's time to be men and women and admit that not every black person who accuses a white person of a crime is telling the truth.

Go on, Gods Ivy. Start off the string of apologies for your racist attitude.

The legal system is not always fair or balanced. Sometimes people get accused of something that they did not do. These boys should be lucky that they did not stand trial, get convicted and then go to jail for 10 years of their lives before someone realized it was a mistake. Now that has happed to alot of people, mostly African-American, who were later aquitted. In the society we live in today perpetuates an injustice to our justice system that targets African-Americans by giving harsher sentences for lesser offenses. In other words before you rush to call someone else racist first look at the society that promotes racism in various ways and if you need a quick tutorial let a sister know!! Please do not forget that the prosecutor was white and he was out to get those boys. This case could have been about many issues that our society suffers from such as classism, or society's favortism towards athletes. Drawing an opinion from the facts presented is what the law is about, lawyers, judges and juries do it every day and just because someone is not the true outcome doesn't make them an a**. JMO

[Gods Ivy]

40 witnessed 4 committed the crime but none of the players are talking, they are all sticking together and items of the young woman's was found at the house where the rape took place.