Alleged Rape of NCCU Student: (Duke Scandal)

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Exquisite5

Aside from the word "cordially," nothing in this post is well, cordial.

It's like saying "with all due respect"

[Exquisite5]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It's like saying "with all due respect"

Clearly.

My point was that, despite his use of the word, there was nothing cordial or respectful about the post.

[Confucius]

I really need for people to get it together. Dialogue and Constructive Criticism is one thing....antagonistic behavior is another.....

Moving on. I always wondered why the community surrounding Duke University rose up against the University so fast? It wasn't just the prosecutor but the entire community.

In comparison, I went to the University of Pittsburgh, Carnegie Mellon was one block up, and I pass University of Pennsylvania frequently. I can't see the neighborhoods surrounding these school jumping up, ready to burn the school down on moments notice. I am sure the community's would have watched closely but Duke had no support from the city of Durham.

I wonder what the relationship was/is between Duke and surrounding the community. Hmm.....

I know one thing...at least another group of people knows how it feels to be wrongly accused.

[jon1856]

An interesting POV-The Op-Ed Cartoons from the local newspaper:
http://cagle.com/news/DraughonDukeScandal/

[Little32]

Originally Posted by Confucius

I really need for people to get it together. Dialogue and Constructive Criticism is one thing....antagonistic behavior is another.....

Moving on. I always wondered why the community surrounding Duke University rose up against the University so fast? It wasn't just the prosecutor but the entire community.

In comparison, I went to the University of Pittsburgh, Carnegie Mellon was one block up, and I pass University of Pennsylvania frequently. I can't see the neighborhoods surrounding these school jumping up, ready to burn the school down on moments notice. I am sure the community's would have watched closely but Duke had no support from the city of Durham.

I wonder what the relationship was/is between Duke and surrounding the community. Hmm.....

I know one thing...at least another group of people knows how it feels to be wrongly accused.

From what I understand, there has been a long standing animosity between the school and the community (town/gown conflict). It is primarily a race/class issue. There have probably been too many instances where something really did happen(not necessarily rape, but other criminal activity)--and was swept under the rug, and the town is just fed up.

I'm not sure who I should believe. In the beginning I was completely on the young lady's side but once other statements got out and more details were released, I doubted her story. I also think the Durham community is starting to doubt it as well. I am a student at NCCU and when she first came forth, we had rallies almost everyday on her behalf. We had signs around campus showing our support for her and everything. I'm not saying that she is not being supported now, but it is not that visible anymore. If she is being truthful, they did a helluva job covering it up and I am sorry they will not be held accountable for what they did. If they didn't...I feel bad their names were dragged through the dirt. I say what's done is done, try to move on and leave it in God's hand.

[Confucius]

Originally Posted by Little32

From what I understand, there has been a long standing animosity between the school and the community (town/gown conflict). It is primarily a race/class issue. There have probably been too many instances where something really did happen(not necessarily rape, but other criminal activity)--and was swept under the rug, and the town is just fed up.

Make sense, I knew there had to be some reason for this.

[shinerbock]

Sorry, I have a tough time believing that the college students were preying upon the locals. Logic indicates that it was probably the other way around. I'm not saying there weren't incidents like you mentioned, but I have a tough time believing they're the victim.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Sorry, I have a tough time believing that the college students were preying upon the locals. Logic indicates that it was probably the other way around. I'm not saying there weren't incidents like you mentioned, but I have a tough time believing they're the victim.

This is the reason that, whatever our ideological or experiential perspective, we have to look at the particulat facts, and not speculate about general expectations circumscribed by racial,class,gender issues.

The Duke lacrosse team was known to be rowdy, with infraction after infraction and year after year of drunk, disorderly conduct and other "animal house" behaviour like out of control underage drinking, public urination, etc. in the residential neighborhood where the house was.The University did not censure them as they should have. Something of this nature was bound to happen. Does that make the three young men guilty? No; but in this circumstance it can lend some credence to speculation about sexual misconduct,given this context.

This is like the "perfect storm" of a case. All the parties involved being in the wrong place at the wrong time, doing the wrong things. Nothing good will come of it. It's a lose-lose siutation for all involved. This is the lesson the carefree, boys and girls gone wild crowd needs to consider.

[skeeliteful]

FYI...The 3 accused men along with their attorney are on 60 minutes right now.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Nifong apologizes to ex-Duke lacrosse players

Former D.A. admits there was 'no credible evidence' in rape investigation

Updated: 12:02 p.m. ET July 26, 2007
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DURHAM, N.C. - Disgraced former prosecutor Mike Nifong acknowledged Thursday there is “no credible evidence” that three Duke lacrosse players committed any of the crimes he accused them of more than a year ago, offering for the first time a complete and unqualified apology.
“We all need to heal,” Nifong said. “It is my hope we can start this process today.”
Nifong’s apology came as a judge began considering whether to hold the former Durham County district attorney in criminal contempt of court for his handling of the case.

Rest of story here

*Bill Duke enters the room with Mike Nifong and Crystal Gail Mangum and says as follows:

"You know what you done. You done f[oul]ed up. You know you done f[oul]ed up, right....."*

The chickens done came home to roost.