Pledging a Transgender Sudent? Title IX?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

How about everyone here stop pretending to be so excepting . . . Fraternities and Sororities, the ones that were founded over a 100 years ago stand for good moral values and ethics. . . .

They also stand for academic excellence. After you start demonstrating even a little bit of academic competence, you can start criticizing other GLOs for their "failure" to stand for "good moral values."

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

How about everyone here stop pretending to be so excepting (you wouldn't go Greek if you were all about fairness and equality), how you are chosen to belong to the organization you are in isn't based on fairness or equality. You will say oh they deserve a chance in life it isn't their fault they are transexual. That is called hypocracy, you can't support something if you wouldn't do it yourself. You all know none of your organizations would take a transexual person. I don't really care if they were pro-slavery, it was wrong but that was the time period. I don't believe the Greek organizations we know were founded by athetist orgie inbreds. They sure weren't people who were transexual. Fraternities and Sororities, the ones that were founded over a 100 years ago stand for good moral values and ethics, that is not what a transexual represents. I don't care if they have their dick cut off and grow breast they still have the mind of a man and not a woman.

So where did you get your medical degree? It's nice to know that you have this condition all sewn up and have all the answers. When you grow up and move away from your small town where everything is black and white, you'll learn that there are lots of shades of gray out there and morality doesn't have anything to do with many of the issues humans have to deal with on a daily basis. Enjoy your small world for now with the safety of your ignorance. It's very comforting.

[DrPhil]

Most chapters for most organizations will never or very rarely (knowingly) have a transgendered applicant. Gender and biological sex are assumed to be the same since birth unless stated or discovered otherwise.

Someone who came to college as Bob and became Brianna (or vice versa) is less likely to be accepted than someone who made the transformation before college and whose current (not past or future) gender is correctly reflected on every component of the application. Bob for the male fraternity and Brianna for the sorority and female fraternity. Makes complete sense to me.

[DrPhil]

What's more interesting than transgenderism (because most transgendered people are still attempting to fit into a designated sex and gender category) is androgyny.

I'm sure most chapters have never had an androgenous(sp) applicant and that applicant would be eliminated pretty quickly if it wasn't clear which side of the aisle the person was sitting in in terms of sex and gender.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

What's more interesting than transgenderism (because most transgendered people are still attempting to fit into a designated sex and gender category) is androgyny.

I'm sure most chapters have never had an androgenous(sp) applicant and that applicant would be eliminated pretty quickly if it wasn't clear which side of the aisle the person was sitting in in terms of sex and gender.

But would an androgynous person really want to join a sorority or fraternity? I'm just thinking about SNL's Pat. Mmmnnnnhhhhhh

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

But would an androgynous person really want to join a sorority or fraternity? I'm just thinking about SNL's Pat. Mmmnnnnhhhhhh

LOL.

I left my "WWAD" hat at home today. I don't know and don't think "they" can be painted with such a broad brush.

[starang21]

i wouldn't vote for a transgender.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

LOL.

I left my "WWAD" hat at home today. I don't know and don't think "they" can be painted with such a broad brush.

I agree. I don't think chapters can either which makes a lot of these questions difficult. In general, I think the answer is no for a lot of these questions, but most of our organizations have more liberal chapters that may say "yes." It's still pretty early in the transgender movement. Not many people really understand what is going on with this issue, so I don't expect at this time many people would be open to offering membership to an openly transgendered applicant. Times will likely change if history is any lesson.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by starang21

i wouldn't vote for a transgender.

Knowingly.

On another note, there is also the rare occasion of men who want to be in an NPHC frat but eventually plan on dressing in drag or something to that effect. I have seen it happen for men who crossed before I was born. Still the same frat brother who is giving to the frat. Just wants to be a man who wears a skirt and make-up now. "Don't judge me!"

[naraht]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Knowingly.

On another note, there is also the rare occasion of men who want to be in an NPHC frat but eventually plan on dressing in drag or something to that effect. I have seen it happen for men who crossed before I was born. Still the same frat brother who is giving to the frat. Just wants to be a man who wears a skirt and make-up now. "Don't judge me!"

Then of course you have MIAKA.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by naraht

Then of course you have MIAKA.

LOL

[ao_cutie_pi5]

I really don't think a topic such as this belongs on here! It isn't very fun and it is awkward and controversial.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by ao_cutie_pi5

I really don't think a topic such as this belongs on here! It isn't very fun and it is awkward and controversial.

How old are you?

I'm not trying to be mean, but really?

It's not "awkward or controversial", it's life.

Discussion of these types of issues is part of life. You'd better hide inside.

[lovespink88]

Originally Posted by ao_cutie_pi5

I really don't think a topic such as this belongs on here! It isn't very fun and it is awkward and controversial.

LOL @ the newbie saying what shouldn't be on GC.

[ao_cutie_pi5]

I don't have to associate with those things, I can stay in a little bubble. Life should be about fun and not talking about things that cause problems!