Texas A&M Recruitment...as a junior?

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by Eightisgreat

I do agree that in larger organizations (100+) a PNM has the ability to find a hand full of girls that she can relate too. I think we can all agree that in the rush situation, those particular girls may not be who is paired with said PNM. So at age 18 or 19 these young PNMs have to make a judgement on who is standing in front of her, and she simply does not have the ability or opportunity to seekout like minded indivduals. If there is any "blame" to the sterotypes that PNMs place on chapters, it is that chapters do not do their homework effectively and match PNMs with an active that is like minded, like valued and with similar interests. I do believe some chapters do a much better job at this than others. If you match an applied mathmatics major with a fashion merchandise major, you will more than likely have both saying "no match here." With all that said, these PNM's can only base their attitude of "I don't fit" or "this is my dream house" off of a conversation with maybe 3-5% of the actives. That alone will lead to the generalizations and nothing will ever change that.

well said!

[carnation]

AaaaaaMEN!

[pabeta1530]

To those who disagree with my views: The irony is it won't matter to any of us in a year, anyway, except to the young lady involved. A great example of wasted breath, isn't it?

[southbymidwest]

Originally Posted by Eightisgreat

I do agree that in larger organizations (100+) a PNM has the ability to find a hand full of girls that she can relate too. I think we can all agree that in the rush situation, those particular girls may not be who is paired with said PNM. So at age 18 or 19 these young PNMs have to make a judgement on who is standing in front of her, and she simply does not have the ability or opportunity to seekout like minded indivduals. If there is any "blame" to the sterotypes that PNMs place on chapters, it is that chapters do not do their homework effectively and match PNMs with an active that is like minded, like valued and with similar interests. I do believe some chapters do a much better job at this than others. If you match an applied mathmatics major with a fashion merchandise major, you will more than likely have both saying "no match here." With all that said, these PNM's can only base their attitude of "I don't fit" or "this is my dream house" off of a conversation with maybe 3-5% of the actives. That alone will lead to the generalizations and nothing will ever change that.

Absolutely.

[bostongreek]

Originally Posted by pabeta1530

To those who disagree with my views: The irony is it won't matter to any of us in a year, anyway, except to the young lady involved. A great example of wasted breath, isn't it?

you should probably just stop.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by pabeta1530

To those who disagree with my views: The irony is it won't matter to any of us in a year, anyway, except to the young lady involved. A great example of wasted breath, isn't it?

Why are you so concerned with sorority affairs?

[aggieadpi_01]

As an alumna of Texas A&M, I can honestly say that your chances of getting a bid as a Junior greatly decreases. Who knows, several chapters may hold COB events in Spring after Seniors graduate. Go, get to know the members in a more relaxed setting, and see if you might not find your "home." Whatever you choose to do, good luck. But realize that if you do rush again, you need to be prepared for heavier cuts than underclassmen.

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by amperches

I was uncomfortable in the house from day one. The sister who picked me up at the door seemed uninterested in telling me about her sorority, and when I would ask questions, she would not give me a clear answer or would deviate from my question completely. Later in the week, when I went back for Pref Night, I had expressed that I had found my home elsewhere. The sister with whom I was talking told me that she thought that was wonderful and that she wasn't going to try and force her sorority on me now because I had already found a home elsewhere. She also said that many of the girls they asked back were asked back to fill quota (apparently they never fill theirs). I thought that being energetic about one's sorority and trying to gain new members was what rush was all about. The fact that the sisters I spoke with were disinterested in their sorority turned me off from it and the fact that I was asked back only to fill quota, not because they truly wanted me, both angered and hurt me. I do not want to be a part of something due to numbers. I want to be with sisters who truly want me there and really care about me as a person, not as a number.

One thing I never understood was why chapters had to have everyone who came to their pref party somewhere on their bid list. Would someone explain this? If someone had come to ABC's pref and said I don't want to be here I want to be with XYZ. I think ABC should be allowed not to even list them on their bid list. I know you could list them at the very end of your list, but there is always a chance that they still end up on ABC's bid list.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Mevara

One thing I never understood was why chapters had to have everyone who came to their pref party somewhere on their bid list. Would someone explain this? If someone had come to ABC's pref and said I don't want to be here I want to be with XYZ. I think ABC should be allowed not to even list them on their bid list. I know you could list them at the very end of your list, but there is always a chance that they still end up on ABC's bid list.

It's part of "the rules" about when bid lists are submitted. Most chapters are not amending them after pref starts. If the PNM really feels that way she can decline the bid.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by pabeta1530

To those who disagree with my views: The irony is it won't matter to any of us in a year, anyway, except to the young lady involved. A great example of wasted breath, isn't it?

That is not how irony works.

[pabeta1530]

Originally Posted by aggieadpi_01

As an alumna of Texas A&M, I can honestly say that your chances of getting a bid as a Junior greatly decreases. Who knows, several chapters may hold COB events in Spring after Seniors graduate. Go, get to know the members in a more relaxed setting, and see if you might not find your "home." Whatever you choose to do, good luck. But realize that if you do rush again, you need to be prepared for heavier cuts than underclassmen.

Thank you, ma'am. Finally, a life raft of reason, amidst a sea of misdirected snarkiness. Kudos.

[Mevara]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

It's part of "the rules" about when bid lists are submitted. Most chapters are not amending them after pref starts. If the PNM really feels that way she can decline the bid.

I know its part of the rules, but I was wondering if someone knew the reasoning behind it? Personally I think its a silly rule.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Mevara

I know its part of the rules, but I was wondering if someone knew the reasoning behind it? Personally I think its a silly rule.

Well, it's an NPC agreement which means that at least a majority of the NPC members agreed on it. (not sure if it's unanimous or not) Reasons behind it? It means that bid matching can begin immediately after pref without waiting for MS. It means that pref is more about the actives impressing the PNMs than vice versa, and it means the sororities will not invite PNMs back that they don't intend to keep. Those are the reasons i see, I don't know if there's anything else involved.

I'd think the occasions are very few where a chapter would dramatically change its mind about a PNM during pref.

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by Eightisgreat

I do agree that in larger organizations (100+) a PNM has the ability to find a hand full of girls that she can relate too. I think we can all agree that in the rush situation, those particular girls may not be who is paired with said PNM. So at age 18 or 19 these young PNMs have to make a judgement on who is standing in front of her, and she simply does not have the ability or opportunity to seekout like minded indivduals. If there is any "blame" to the sterotypes that PNMs place on chapters, it is that chapters do not do their homework effectively and match PNMs with an active that is like minded, like valued and with similar interests. I do believe some chapters do a much better job at this than others. If you match an applied mathmatics major with a fashion merchandise major, you will more than likely have both saying "no match here." With all that said, these PNM's can only base their attitude of "I don't fit" or "this is my dream house" off of a conversation with maybe 3-5% of the actives. That alone will lead to the generalizations and nothing will ever change that.

The PNMs could help themselves and get some recs so the chapters can do that ASAP.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Mevara

One thing I never understood was why chapters had to have everyone who came to their pref party somewhere on their bid list. Would someone explain this? If someone had come to ABC's pref and said I don't want to be here I want to be with XYZ. I think ABC should be allowed not to even list them on their bid list. I know you could list them at the very end of your list, but there is always a chance that they still end up on ABC's bid list.

Some sororities/chapters are at schools where rush is far more casual, pref is the ONLY invitational party (i.e. sororities are not allowed to cut ANYONE before pref) and I highly doubt that everyone who is invited to that party HAS to be on a chapter's bid list. I'm not sure where "this is a rule like sorority members have to be enrolled at the school they're rushing at" came from.

pabeta: Another rushee might look at this thread in a year and see your bad advice and think she'll be fine rushing as a junior. So yes, it DOES matter to more people than the OP.