The War in Iraq: 6 Years Later

DaemonSeid · #1 03-19-2009, 09:08 AM

Talk about whatever comes to mind.

Policies

Friends and family that served or are serving there

Ramifications and reprecussions.

Thetagirl218 · #2 03-19-2009, 06:08 PM

I was driving to work this morning when they mentioned the anniversary....and the number of dead soldiers...

I pounded the steering wheel....

I will never forget the start of the war, I was driving to Tennessee for a college visit, and we listened to the whole thing on the Satellite radio....

I have friends who have already served 3 tours, others just finished their 1st, and more are planning on joining this summer after school is done....

KSUViolet06 · #3 03-19-2009, 06:37 PM

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...s/2009.03.html

4,578 Coalition deaths.

4,621 Americans

Crazy.

moe.ron · #4 03-19-2009, 09:33 PM

Countless Iraqi death that seems to be under reported by the mainstream media or just plain ignored.

Billion of dollar corrupted by corporation and mismanagement by the viceroy Bremmer.

The rise of the Mercs and due to viceroy's Bremmer inability to see what's right and wrong, they get away with literally murder.

UGAalum94 · #5 03-19-2009, 10:14 PM

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL32492.pdf

That link just has some interesting data for comparison.

The table that reports active duty deaths by year (1980-2006) is interesting to me as are the tables that present numbers of how many served, were wounded, or died per conflict.

While I'm sad when almost anyone dies under any circumstances (and even the rare exceptions don't make me happy or anything), from a numerical standpoint it's hard to argue that it's a particularly deadly war or even a particularly dangerous (in terms of the percentage wounded) war as wars go.

Even if you aren't crazy about why we went to war, unless you were just exceptionally pissed about Arch Duke Ferdinand, we're still doing much better in Iraq than we did in WWI. It's hard to think of much more senseless slaughter than WWI. We lost more than 100,000 guys in less than a year and a half.

I hate that I'm probably coming off as all, "well whatever, it's no Pacific theater in WWII, who cares?" But when people want to discuss numbers in Iraq, I feel like they should have to mention that we lose 700-1000 people in the military in a year when aren't actually engaged in wars.

It's a dangerous job in the best of circumstances.

Zephyrus · #6 03-20-2009, 01:19 AM

I'm all for the Iraqi war. I don't think Bush gets enough credit for his actions in Iraq. It's all negative bullsht. It's looks fked now, but give it another 20 years and watch his ratings go up. They said the same bullsht about Truman. He turned out to be a good president. Think about it people. If Bush wouldn't have gotten rid of Saddam, then he would have attacked Israel and that's when the sht would have hit the fking fan. We're over in Iraq and will stay there from now on. Just like we are in Germany. We've been there since WWII.

moe.ron · #7 03-20-2009, 01:49 AM

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If Bush wouldn't have gotten rid of Saddam, then he would have attacked Israel and that's when the sht would have hit the fking fan.

Wha? I've herd of WMD and Democracy argument, but never herd of this one.

Zephyrus · #8 03-20-2009, 04:12 AM

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Wha? I've herd of WMD and Democracy argument, but never herd of this one.

WTF??? You don't think Saddam would have attacked Israel???

moe.ron · #9 03-20-2009, 05:19 AM

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WTF??? You don't think Saddam would have attacked Israel???

Uhm, no . . . he couldn't even attack the Kurd area. You really think he could've attacked Israel? With what weaponry? Let me guess, the WMD that could've hit Europe in 45 minutes?

Zephyrus · #10 03-21-2009, 12:33 AM

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Uhm, no . . . he couldn't even attack the Kurd area. You really think he could've attacked Israel? With what weaponry? Let me guess, the WMD that could've hit Europe in 45 minutes?

He probably wouldn't be successful at it, but all it would take is an attempt on his part to cause a war.

kstar · #11 03-21-2009, 01:54 PM

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He probably wouldn't be successful at it, but all it would take is an attempt on his part to cause a war.

And it would take Israel less than 6 days to shut him down, we've been there 6 YEARS.

Zephyrus · #12 03-22-2009, 02:24 AM

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And it would take Israel less than 6 days to shut him down, we've been there 6 YEARS.

There really was a six day war back in 1967 (not with Iraq) I think, but that was then. The times are different now. We're there and we will stay there, and that's what you're not comprehending. It was that way post WWII. We went to Germany, fought in Germany, and stayed there, as well as other European countries. Bush is not getting enough credit for his actions in Iraq. Personally, I think Bush was way underrated and Obama is way overrated. C'mon, the dude got praised like he saved the whole fking world before he even made it to the white house.

kstar · #13 03-22-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephyrus

There really was a six day war back in 1967 (not with Iraq) I think, but that was then. The times are different now. We're there and we will stay there, and that's what you're not comprehending. It was that way post WWII. We went to Germany, fought in Germany, and stayed there, as well as other European countries. Bush is not getting enough credit for his actions in Iraq. Personally, I think Bush was way underrated and Obama is way overrated. C'mon, the dude got praised like he saved the whole fking world before he even made it to the white house.

I said that to make a point. I'm glad you at least got the reference, so why do you seem so uneducated about what is going on now?

I give Bush credit, credit for killing innocent Iraqi civilians. Credit for becoming the aggressor and making military moves based on false accusations. Credit for making America the laughing stock of the world. Credit for taking a balanced budget with a surplus, and turning it into a financial crisis. Is that the type of credit you think he deserves, because that is all the credit I will give him.

KSigkid · #14 03-22-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephyrus

There really was a six day war back in 1967 (not with Iraq) I think, but that was then. The times are different now. We're there and we will stay there, and that's what you're not comprehending. It was that way post WWII. We went to Germany, fought in Germany, and stayed there, as well as other European countries. Bush is not getting enough credit for his actions in Iraq. Personally, I think Bush was way underrated and Obama is way overrated. C'mon, the dude got praised like he saved the whole fking world before he even made it to the white house.

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Originally Posted by kstar

I said that to make a point. I'm glad you at least got the reference, so why do you seem so uneducated about what is going on now?

I give Bush credit, credit for killing innocent Iraqi civilians. Credit for becoming the aggressor and making military moves based on false accusations. Credit for making America the laughing stock of the world. Credit for taking a balanced budget with a surplus, and turning it into a financial crisis. Is that the type of credit you think he deserves, because that is all the credit I will give him.

It's interesting watching two extremists go at it, haha.

Educatingblue · #15 03-22-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Talk about whatever comes to mind.

Policies

Friends and family that served or are serving there

Ramifications and reprecussions.

I guess I will just list my family members that served (or getting ready to serve)

My brother
My brother-in-law
Nephew
Sister-in-law (She is going in April...and we are throwing her a big party next weekend!!!!)

As much as I do not like what is going on over there, we definitely cannot pull out now. My husband and I were talking about this the other day, and it will interesting to see how the economical downturn will affect the military/recruitment.