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View Poll Results: Do you feel like your organization gave you life skills of any kind?
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:52 PM
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Accreditation, reporting process, assessment, etc..

So every sorority/fraternity has some kind of reporting process for chapters that gets sent back to Nationals. I am a member of tridelts and we have a specific process that we have to keep track of and submit on paper back to Nationals at the end of the semester. We have to be involved in x amount of activities, get x amount of new girls, retain x amount, etc..
What processes do other organizations use and are there specific names for them? I know that Sigma Kappa has one called "Standard of Excellence"
Furthermore, are these programs even that rewarding or helpful and who do they benefit?

I was new member ed and dreaded filling out these reports because they were so tedious.. any suggestions on what to do or what the point is?!

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Old 03-15-2010, 03:58 PM
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So every sorority/fraternity has some kind of reporting process for chapters that gets sent back to Nationals. I am a member of Tridelts at Purdue and we have a specific process that we have to keep track of and submit on paper back to Nationals at the end of the semester. We have to be involved in x amount of activities, get x amount of new girls, retain x amount, etc..
What processes do other organizations use and are there specific names for them? I know that Sigma Kappa has one called "Standard of Excellence"
Furthermore, are these programs even that rewarding or helpful and who do they benefit?

I was new member ed and dreaded filling out these reports because they were so tedious.. any suggestions on what to do or what the point is?!
There has to be some level of accountability when you're part of a national organization. If all your group is ever doing is partying and never doing philanthropy, blowing off rituals, and not bothering to educate or rush new members, it's going to have a negative effect on the chapter and the sorority as a whole.

Just think of it this way, if you were NME and had no report to fill out...that would mean you had no new members, and that would really suck. It's not like you have to meet with each girl individually and read her report on what the sorority means or something.

ETA: I don't understand what the poll has to do with the question you're asking.
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:08 PM
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I feel like many nationals do not hold their chapters accountable, look at what happened at KY this weekend. This could have been prevented if the house had any kind of oversight from Nationals or even the university. Furthermore, are Nationals even holding us accountable for the right things?
My poll is in relation to the things we are being held accountable for. If we are being held accountable then chances are we acquired life skills of some kind. Kind of a loose connection, mainly I was just curious for my own personal interest.
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:17 PM
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My poll is in relation to the things we are being held accountable for. If we are being held accountable then chances are we acquired life skills of some kind. Kind of a loose connection, mainly I was just curious for my own personal interest.
A very loose connection. A national organization holding a chapter accountable for certain things does not correlate to individual members gaining life skills.

Meanwhile, I don't know that you did yourself or your sisters any favors by identifying your chapter and raising this in a public forum. Sounds like something that should be an internal conversation to me.
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Old 03-15-2010, 04:31 PM
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First of all, the tediousness of filling out my reports correlates back to Nationals and was in no way meant to be rude or disrespectful, I was merely trying to figure out a way that could be MORE efficient and be of greater worth to the sorority as a whole. I am sorry you misinterpreted my comment.

The bottom line I am trying to get across is if there is a way that sororities and fraternities could take some time to reflect on what is important to them and come up with ways to prevent what happened in KY. I think that the things we were founded on should be what we are held accountable for and should be what we gain in terms of skills. I will continue to be a lifelong advocate for the Greek system and want to ensure that those who encounter it after me will be better equipped upon graduation with important life skills the sorority was able to bestow upon them.
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Old 03-15-2010, 06:30 PM
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Meanwhile, I don't know that you did yourself or your sisters any favors by identifying your chapter and raising this in a public forum. Sounds like something that should be an internal conversation to me.
I'm starting to question that "identifying" post, as most members of DDD on here would never refer to it as "tridelts". Also, I know that my sorority's reports are now submitted electronically. Tri Delta has been on the cutting edge as far as use of the Web is concerned and I highly doubt that they still have to file their reports on paper. (Hopefully some of the nice Tri Deltas on here will let us know if that's the case.)

I think this is someone with an ax to grind about an entirely different matter.
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Old 03-15-2010, 06:49 PM
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Also, if the OP felt this way about Tri Delta's reports, why would she vote "yes" in her poll?

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Old 03-16-2010, 08:38 AM
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I'm starting to question that "identifying" post, as most members of DDD on here would never refer to it as "tridelts".
I did think about that, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was a typo, since a and s are next to each other on the keyboard.

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Also, I know that my sorority's reports are now submitted electronically. Tri Delta has been on the cutting edge as far as use of the Web is concerned and I highly doubt that they still have to file their reports on paper. (Hopefully some of the nice Tri Deltas on here will let us know if that's the case.)
Good point.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:06 AM
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I had no issue to begin with, I was just trying to figure out what other chapters were doing in regards to accreditation. I have no beef with my sorority, I just was frustrated with submitting my reports on paper when we can save money and paper by putting it online. And I put yes to my poll because my sorority has given me life skills that I am proud of. I guess I should of rephrased my first post, I honestly was just trying to get some opinions and feedback on what other houses were doing, I wasn't trying to become a martyr for my sorority.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:27 AM
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I did think about that, but I gave her the benefit of the doubt and assumed it was a typo, since a and s are next to each other on the keyboard.
I meant more the lowercase and all one word. How often do you refer to your fraternity as "pma"? Especially when Sigma Kappa is capitalized later in the post.

Nope, not buying it at all.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:42 AM
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How often do you refer to your fraternity as "pma"?
Never. Nor do I ever refer to it as "PMA." If it's not the full name or "Phi Mu Alpha," it's "Sinfonia."

But yeah, I get your skepticism.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:51 PM
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The bottom line I am trying to get across is if there is a way that sororities and fraternities could take some time to reflect on what is important to them and come up with ways to prevent what happened in KY..[/QUOTE]

Hmmm...there is no cure for stupidity....sorry.
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Old 03-16-2010, 09:17 PM
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First of all, the tediousness of filling out my reports correlates back to Nationals and was in no way meant to be rude or disrespectful, I was merely trying to figure out a way that could be MORE efficient and be of greater worth to the sorority as a whole. I am sorry you misinterpreted my comment.

The bottom line I am trying to get across is if there is a way that sororities and fraternities could take some time to reflect on what is important to them and come up with ways to prevent what happened in KY. I think that the things we were founded on should be what we are held accountable for and should be what we gain in terms of skills. I will continue to be a lifelong advocate for the Greek system and want to ensure that those who encounter it after me will be better equipped upon graduation with important life skills the sorority was able to bestow upon them.
if i am understanding you correctly, you are wishing that the reports would ask about things that you feel would benefit your chapter? the reports most likely are for the benefit of your national office, so that they know your chapter follows protocol and so that national and chapter members can get a real assessment on the health of the chapter. you may not be able to see the big picture, but they don't ask you to fill out the reports just for busy work-after all, someone has to read them and record their findings.
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