Does anyone else think that...

Splash · #1 05-09-2010, 10:03 PM

Does anyone else think that the number of NPC sororities on a campus correlates to the inter-sorority relations? I am very familiar with 3 campuses. One has 4 (now 5) sororities, one has 6 and one has 7. I have noticed in the campus with 6 sororities, that all 6 sororities have great relations with each other and it is a very supportive Panhellenic community. It is not uncommon to see a group of girls hanging out with different letters. On the campus with seven groups, this is not so. I have observed different cliques of some sororities with others, but outside of these cliques, the sorority relations are similar to rivals. On the campus with 4 (now 5) sororities, the Panhellenic spirit is even worse. Every house seems to compete with the others. I was just wondering if this was just me or if your campuses with similar number have similar results. Just wondering

KSUViolet06 · #2 05-09-2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Splash

Does anyone else think that the number of NPC sororities on a campus correlates to the inter-sorority relations? I am very familiar with 3 campuses. One has 4 (now 5) sororities, one has 6 and one has 7. I have noticed in the campus with 6 sororities, that all 6 sororities have great relations with each other and it is a very supportive Panhellenic community. It is not uncommon to see a group of girls hanging out with different letters. On the campus with seven groups, this is not so. I have observed different cliques of some sororities with others, but outside of these cliques, the sorority relations are similar to rivals. On the campus with 4 (now 5) sororities, the Panhellenic spirit is even worse. Every house seems to compete with the others. I was just wondering if this was just me or if your campuses with similar number have similar results. Just wondering

No.

My campus had 6 chapters and we got along pretty well (outside of competitive things like recruitment). I don't think the number of chapters has much to do with it. I have seen the same behavior you describe at schools with 3 chapters and at schools with 11 or 12.

I also don't think that any school is really EVER 100% perfectly Panhellenic. Every school has its moments.

Splash · #3 05-09-2010, 10:35 PM

Oh I just meant with particular numbers. It seems as if your experience seems to agree with mine (6), that they all got along pretty well. And of course nothing is ever 100% Panhellenic. Why would you say that?

33girl · #4 05-09-2010, 10:48 PM

This would make more sense if you were comparing 3 vs 8 vs 19 or something. But this? It's like you think 6 is the magic number for harmony or something. I think it's in your head.

Splash · #5 05-09-2010, 10:57 PM

You're right. I've only had experiences with smaller Panhellenic communities. That does limit the question a lot.

AOII Angel · #6 05-10-2010, 06:59 AM

I think it has more to do with the Greek Advisor and the environment fostered by his/her office. If recruitment violations, non-Panhellenic behavior, etc is tolerated, this breeds the kind of experience you are talking about regardless of the number of organizations on the campus. Advisors/Greek Life offices that work to minimize these negative influences and maximize events that make groups work together help the environment. In the end, though, you'll never totally get rid of a feeling of competition when you compete for the same girls every year during recruitment.

33girl · #7 05-10-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I think it has more to do with the Greek Advisor and the environment fostered by his/her office. If recruitment violations, non-Panhellenic behavior, etc is tolerated, this breeds the kind of experience you are talking about regardless of the number of organizations on the campus. Advisors/Greek Life offices that work to minimize these negative influences and maximize events that make groups work together help the environment. In the end, though, you'll never totally get rid of a feeling of competition when you compete for the same girls every year during recruitment.

And then there's the Greek life advisor who sucks so much that (s)he manages to get the groups to bond because they all hate his/her guts. LOL

AOII Angel · #8 05-10-2010, 03:02 PM

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And then there's the Greek life advisor who sucks so much that (s)he manages to get the groups to bond because they all hate his/her guts. LOL

That's what the campus I've worked with has dealt with for years...though Panhel spirit is almost non-existent. I figured out a long time ago- never hire recently graduated frat boy to be Greek Advisor, especially if he plans to date sorority girls!

33girl · #9 05-10-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

That's what the campus I've worked with has dealt with for years...though Panhel spirit is almost non-existent. I figured out a long time ago- never hire recently graduated frat boy to be Greek Advisor, especially if he plans to date sorority girls!

One of our sorority advisors broke up with her husband and went on a fraternity boy dating spree. A rather public one from what I understand. GRROOOOOSSSSSSS

AOII Angel · #10 05-10-2010, 03:34 PM

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One of our sorority advisors broke up with her husband and went on a fraternity boy dating spree. A rather public one from what I understand. GRROOOOOSSSSSSS

Our Greek Advisor even got one of his girlfriends to drop out of her sorority because he couldn't date an active. They promptly broke up once she deactivated.

shadokat · #11 05-10-2010, 04:06 PM

I know of a campus where the greek advisor dated a sorority president, and went to their formal, and when they broke up, he reported them for hazing.

Gusteau · #12 05-10-2010, 04:18 PM

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I know of a campus where the greek advisor dated a sorority president, and went to their formal, and when they broke up, he reported them for hazing.

OMGWTFBBQ - that's twisted!

MaggieXi · #13 05-10-2010, 04:43 PM

The former Greek Advisor (who was still working at the school in another capacity) when I was a senior was cheating on her husband with a fraternity undergrad who was on the 6 year plan. He was known for being a male slut. She eventually caught an STD from him and I believe she and her husband divorced.

indygphib · #14 05-10-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieXi

The former Greek Advisor (who was still working at the school in another capacity) when I was a senior was cheating on her husband with a fraternity undergrad who was on the 6 year plan. He was known for being a male slut. She eventually caught an STD from him and I believe she and her husband divorced.

A little Marian Wormer/Otter action going on, perhaps?

"Vegetables are very sensuous, don't you think?

"No, vegetables are sensual. People are sensuous. </threadjack>

Any way you look at it, though, Greek Advisor + trolling the fraternities/sororities for some nookie = icky.

daniellekathryn · #15 05-19-2010, 12:17 AM

Our campus has 10 panhel groups now and relations actually seem to be getting somewhat better than they were in the past, but they are definitely not great. I don't know if it has anything to do with the addition of 2 new chapters or if panhel has just been campaigning for more unity than the past, but i know my chapter has made it one of our goals to work towards. the day i understand why the GLOs like to battle when we could be so much stronger if we stood together...

IFC seems to be way worse here.. though they were unified for the first time in my college career this past spring.. unfortunately it was a joint hatred for the new group on campus!

AOII angel: new greek adviser next year! ha!