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Splash 05-09-2010 10:03 PM

Does anyone else think that...
 
Does anyone else think that the number of NPC sororities on a campus correlates to the inter-sorority relations? I am very familiar with 3 campuses. One has 4 (now 5) sororities, one has 6 and one has 7. I have noticed in the campus with 6 sororities, that all 6 sororities have great relations with each other and it is a very supportive Panhellenic community. It is not uncommon to see a group of girls hanging out with different letters. On the campus with seven groups, this is not so. I have observed different cliques of some sororities with others, but outside of these cliques, the sorority relations are similar to rivals. On the campus with 4 (now 5) sororities, the Panhellenic spirit is even worse. Every house seems to compete with the others. I was just wondering if this was just me or if your campuses with similar number have similar results. Just wondering

KSUViolet06 05-09-2010 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Splash (Post 1926663)
Does anyone else think that the number of NPC sororities on a campus correlates to the inter-sorority relations? I am very familiar with 3 campuses. One has 4 (now 5) sororities, one has 6 and one has 7. I have noticed in the campus with 6 sororities, that all 6 sororities have great relations with each other and it is a very supportive Panhellenic community. It is not uncommon to see a group of girls hanging out with different letters. On the campus with seven groups, this is not so. I have observed different cliques of some sororities with others, but outside of these cliques, the sorority relations are similar to rivals. On the campus with 4 (now 5) sororities, the Panhellenic spirit is even worse. Every house seems to compete with the others. I was just wondering if this was just me or if your campuses with similar number have similar results. Just wondering

No.

My campus had 6 chapters and we got along pretty well (outside of competitive things like recruitment). I don't think the number of chapters has much to do with it. I have seen the same behavior you describe at schools with 3 chapters and at schools with 11 or 12.

I also don't think that any school is really EVER 100% perfectly Panhellenic. Every school has its moments.

Splash 05-09-2010 10:35 PM

Oh I just meant with particular numbers. It seems as if your experience seems to agree with mine (6), that they all got along pretty well. And of course nothing is ever 100% Panhellenic. Why would you say that?

33girl 05-09-2010 10:48 PM

This would make more sense if you were comparing 3 vs 8 vs 19 or something. But this? It's like you think 6 is the magic number for harmony or something. I think it's in your head.

Splash 05-09-2010 10:57 PM

You're right. I've only had experiences with smaller Panhellenic communities. That does limit the question a lot.

AOII Angel 05-10-2010 06:59 AM

I think it has more to do with the Greek Advisor and the environment fostered by his/her office. If recruitment violations, non-Panhellenic behavior, etc is tolerated, this breeds the kind of experience you are talking about regardless of the number of organizations on the campus. Advisors/Greek Life offices that work to minimize these negative influences and maximize events that make groups work together help the environment. In the end, though, you'll never totally get rid of a feeling of competition when you compete for the same girls every year during recruitment.

33girl 05-10-2010 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1926758)
I think it has more to do with the Greek Advisor and the environment fostered by his/her office. If recruitment violations, non-Panhellenic behavior, etc is tolerated, this breeds the kind of experience you are talking about regardless of the number of organizations on the campus. Advisors/Greek Life offices that work to minimize these negative influences and maximize events that make groups work together help the environment. In the end, though, you'll never totally get rid of a feeling of competition when you compete for the same girls every year during recruitment.

And then there's the Greek life advisor who sucks so much that (s)he manages to get the groups to bond because they all hate his/her guts. LOL

AOII Angel 05-10-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1926907)
And then there's the Greek life advisor who sucks so much that (s)he manages to get the groups to bond because they all hate his/her guts. LOL

That's what the campus I've worked with has dealt with for years...though Panhel spirit is almost non-existent. I figured out a long time ago- never hire recently graduated frat boy to be Greek Advisor, especially if he plans to date sorority girls!

33girl 05-10-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1926914)
That's what the campus I've worked with has dealt with for years...though Panhel spirit is almost non-existent. I figured out a long time ago- never hire recently graduated frat boy to be Greek Advisor, especially if he plans to date sorority girls!

One of our sorority advisors broke up with her husband and went on a fraternity boy dating spree. A rather public one from what I understand. GRROOOOOSSSSSSS

AOII Angel 05-10-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1926924)
One of our sorority advisors broke up with her husband and went on a fraternity boy dating spree. A rather public one from what I understand. GRROOOOOSSSSSSS

Our Greek Advisor even got one of his girlfriends to drop out of her sorority because he couldn't date an active. They promptly broke up once she deactivated.

shadokat 05-10-2010 04:06 PM

I know of a campus where the greek advisor dated a sorority president, and went to their formal, and when they broke up, he reported them for hazing.

ThetaDancer 05-10-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Splash (Post 1926663)
Does anyone else think that the number of NPC sororities on a campus correlates to the inter-sorority relations? I am very familiar with 3 campuses. One has 4 (now 5) sororities, one has 6 and one has 7. I have noticed in the campus with 6 sororities, that all 6 sororities have great relations with each other and it is a very supportive Panhellenic community. It is not uncommon to see a group of girls hanging out with different letters. On the campus with seven groups, this is not so. I have observed different cliques of some sororities with others, but outside of these cliques, the sorority relations are similar to rivals. On the campus with 4 (now 5) sororities, the Panhellenic spirit is even worse. Every house seems to compete with the others. I was just wondering if this was just me or if your campuses with similar number have similar results. Just wondering

No. Not at all.

KSUViolet06 05-10-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl (Post 1926924)
One of our sorority advisors broke up with her husband and went on a fraternity boy dating spree. A rather public one from what I understand. GRROOOOOSSSSSSS

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1926929)
Our Greek Advisor even got one of his girlfriends to drop out of her sorority because he couldn't date an active. They promptly broke up once she deactivated.

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 1926952)
I know of a campus where the greek advisor dated a sorority president, and went to their formal, and when they broke up, he reported them for hazing.

Eeeeep.

Gusteau 05-10-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shadokat (Post 1926952)
I know of a campus where the greek advisor dated a sorority president, and went to their formal, and when they broke up, he reported them for hazing.

OMGWTFBBQ - that's twisted!

MaggieXi 05-10-2010 04:43 PM

The former Greek Advisor (who was still working at the school in another capacity) when I was a senior was cheating on her husband with a fraternity undergrad who was on the 6 year plan. He was known for being a male slut. She eventually caught an STD from him and I believe she and her husband divorced.


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