This Just in: 88 year old white supremacist opens fire @ Holocaust museum

[DaemonSeid]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A lone gunman wounded a security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday before being injured by return fire, according to police and a museum statement.


Police cars mass outside the Holocaust Museum in Washington after a shooting there on Wednesday.
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The suspect was identified as James von Brunn (wow!), an 88-year-old white supremacist from Maryland, two law enforcement officials told CNN.

Gunfire at the entrance of the museum wounded at least two people Wednesday, emergency officials said.

A private security guard and the shooting suspect were wounded, according to officials of the Washington police.

Sgt. David Schlosser, a spokesman for U.S. Park Police, told reporters a man armed with a "long gun" entered the museum at 12:50 p.m. and fired at a security officer, and both were wounded in the exchange of gunfire.

"My understanding is that two other security officers at the museum returned gunfire at the man that had entered the museum," Schlosser said. Watch Schlosser tell what's known so far »

Schlosser said he didn't know exactly what kind of firearm the man had and whether the shooting was before or after he passed through a metal detector.


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If this is the same guy...he has been one very busy fellow:

http://www.holywesternempire.org/bio.html

http://mystateline.com/content/fulltext/?cid=73961

Google search

[sailboatgirl]

I work at the local Jewish/Holocaust Museum...our campus is obviously in shock right now, as well as being on heightened alert.

Just looked at some of the links..he was Greek in college. Oy...

[WVU alpha phi]

I just read the Yahoo article on it- they just said he was elderly, not 88!

I've been to the Holocause museum in DC before. Creepy.

[AOEforme]

Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi

I just read the Yahoo article on it- they just said he was elderly, not 88!

I read that one too. I thought he was like late 60s or 70s. Not nearly 90!

jeez.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by WVU alpha phi

I just read the Yahoo article on it- they just said he was elderly, not 88!

I've been to the Holocause museum in DC before. Creepy.

When we went to the museum back in 1997, there was a bomb threat and we had to evacuate.

I guess the FBI was right when they predicted that right-wing extremism would increase. Between the election, the declining economy, and the increasing legalization of gay marriage, their heads are just exploding, I'm sure.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

When we went to the museum back in 1997, there was a bomb threat and we had to evacuate.

I guess the FBI was right when they predicted that right-wing extremism would increase. Between the election, the declining economy, and the increasing legalization of gay marriage, their heads are just exploding, I'm sure.

Update: One of the security guards is dead.

Well Mr. Neo Nazi will die in jail...if he makes it out of the hospital that is...

[tri deezy]

Yeesh... I also saw that he was president of his fraternity. Perhaps we should leave out which frat it is... Not the best alum. As a Jewish girl living about two miles from the Holocaust Museum, I'm stunned and angry. I'm so sad about the guard, but more than sad, I'm angry.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

When we went to the museum back in 1997, there was a bomb threat and we had to evacuate.

I guess the FBI was right when they predicted that right-wing extremism would increase. Between the election, the declining economy, and the increasing legalization of gay marriage, their heads are just exploding, I'm sure.

What was the baseline level of right-wing extremism that we're comparing it to?

I think we've had a couple of really high profile cases here lately, certainly, but compared to the early 1990s with Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Oklahoma City. . .

I think the FBI is correct that the situation needs to be monitored because no level of extremist violence should be regarded as normal, but unless we really know what the data is, it's hard to make comparisons. So often we're at the mercy of the media in our perceptions of increases and decreases.

ETA: This is kind of a random question but do we not hear as much lately about left wing extremism because of political shifts and leftist being happier or because there's actually less of it? I don't mean that a crazy balance of "hey, there's been a holocaust attack we're reporting, let's find a terrorist animal rights story to balance it out" should be attempted, but are we actually experiencing fewer destructive acts by extreme, extreme left wingers because capitalism is looking so weak already? Does this stuff really swing back and forth opposition to where the locus of political power is on the spectrum?

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by UGAalum94

What was the baseline level of right-wing extremism that we're comparing it to?

I think we've had a couple of really high profile cases here lately, certainly, but compared to the early 1990s with Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Oklahoma City. . .

I think the FBI is correct that the situation needs to be monitored because no level of extremist violence should be regarded as normal, but unless we really know what the data is, it's hard to make comparisons. So often we're at the mercy of the media in our perceptions of increases and decreases.

ETA: This is kind of a random question but do we not hear as much lately about left wing extremism because of political shifts and leftist being happier or because there's actually less of it? I don't mean that a crazy balance of "hey, there's been a holocaust attack we're reporting, let's find a terrorist animal rights story to balance it out" should be attempted, but are we actually experiencing fewer destructive acts by extreme, extreme left wingers because capitalism is looking so weak already? Does this stuff really swing back and forth opposition to where the locus of political power is on the spectrum?

First, we can't put OKC on the same level as Ruby Ridge. I would consider Oklahoma City's tragedy as right-wing terrorism. Ruby Ridge, at its very basic summary, was government intrusion on private land.

I think there are fewer left-wing extremist activities, because the extreme right has more targets--people of color, gays, abortionists, etc. With the left, their terrorism is usually more environmental in nature. It's much more sexy to report on right-wing nutjobs bombing a gay bar than it is to write an article about animal rights activists "liberating" a lab, in part because of the attempts at death and injury.

But, I stand by my point that some segments of the extreme right don't know what to do with themselves now that gay marriage is becoming the law of the land in a growing number of states AND we have a black President.

[AOII Angel]

Wow...he's been waiting a long time to express his hatred! 88?!

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Wow...he's been waiting a long time to express his hatred! 88?!

He's been expressing his hatred for much of his life. He has been very active in white supremacist groups for a while. He's notorious.

As far as this incident is concerned, it is suspected that this was a last ditch effort from an old man who thinks America's going to hell in a handbasket. White supremacist groups have tried to get stronger in the past decade and especially since this past election.

[sailboatgirl]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

Wow...he's been waiting a long time to express his hatred! 88?!

From what I've read and seen online, he's been expressing it for a long time. He served Federal prison time for an attempted attack on the Federal reserve, and he made several racist and anti-semitic statements about those who convicted them. He's also written some kind of hate book, too.

[srmom]

Maybe it was one of those "suicide by cop" scenarios? He was trying to prove a point and die in the process - go down in flames. Except it didn't work.

[GammaPhi88]

I'm actually an intern at the museum and today happens to be my day off. It's terrifying...and really sad that there is still such hatred out here.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A lone gunman wounded a security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum on Wednesday before being injured by return fire, according to police and a museum statement.

Words cant describe how despicable this is...