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Sorry I'm late to the parade, but I'm fired up. Bear with me.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

It just deeply offends me when White gays act like they are the same "type" of minority that they can equate with being Black or Hispanic.

What I see is White gays do a very good job of trying to convince people that just because gays can't get married, then they are a minority that is akin to Blacks with respect to slavery and the after-effects of slavery in this country. I never buy it.

As I stated before, being Black and being gay are not the same thing with respect to being a minority.

An oppressed minority is still an oppressed minority. We're not having a dick measuring contest about who's had it worse.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

My point is, in terms of minority, the idea that Whites consider themselves a minority is truly laughable to me me. As a group, they exercise more power and influence than anyone else. So I ask them, 'Where is the suffering?'

Don't Ask, Don't Tell; Defense of Marriage Act; Stonewall Riots; Matthew Shepard's murder in Laramie, WY... come on now. The list goes on. Don't want to be ignorant.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Christianity is very deeply rooted in this country. And, in Christianity homosexuality is seen as sinful, along with other acts. So, if you ask me as a Christian, do I have a problem with gays, then yes I do because it does go against the Bible. I strive to live as close to God's word as possible.

But, I'm also wise enough to recognize that not everyone is a Christian. I'm also wise enough to know that people have the right to their own beliefs even though they differ from mine. So, in that respect, then I say live and let live.

If someone says they are not in support of gay marriage, as marriage defined by the Bible, then they have every right to express that openly in the same way that someone would express the opposite view.

HELLO. Do you realize that there was a time that the Bible "said" that it was wrong for black and whites to marry? It also "said" at some point that whites were worthy of blessings while people of color (POC) were animals. How about you actually take the time to study the text yourself as opposed to some ignorant fuck just spoon feeding bullshit into your mouth that you just say out of your ass.

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Bless your heart.

Homosexuality isn't a political issue at all. The political issue comes into play when people like you see homosexuals as second class citizens not worthy of equal protection of rights as heterosexual citizens. Your statements about how a white homosexual male could never be as oppressed as you is quite bold as well. In all seriousness, how the hell do you know? Everyone's journey is different in life and not everyone can "hide under the radar" like you assume they can or even choose to do. I really don't want to get into the Oppression Olympics here but I personally have gay friends that have been disowned from their families, have been forced out of their careers, have been arrested, have been gay-bashed so bad that they were hospitalized all based solely on their sexuality so your comment about how none of these individuals know oppression really ANNOYS me.

Amen.

Originally Posted by Senusret I

If you ate at Chick-fil-A yesterday, I hope you get salmonella poisoning and die.

Yes.

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Considering gay marriage is now an issue on many state ballots, where one is asked to vote for or against it, then yeah, it got to be pretty political at that point.

It has been a while since I had to take a US history and US government class, but as far as I remember, I never read or came across any moment in US history from the early - mid 1600's to today, where gays were forced into servitude just because they were gay. Nor do I recall any law needing to be passed to allows gays the right to vote because they were denied the right to vote simply because they are gay.

Firstly, see this quote about your first point:

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

No. Letting the majority vote on the rights of the minority is not a good idea, and never has been.

Secondly, there are a lot of things that US history books don't mention. Some places don't learn about the significance of Black History Month. We also don't tend to mention the viciously imperialistic past of the US. Everything is just rainbows and sunshine under the stars and stripes! Most high school history books don't go into detail about the Vietnam War and how it wasn't yet another celebrated victory for bald eagles and freedom. Don't begin to tell me how gays haven't been oppressed because it wasn't in your history book.

Again, don't be ignorant because it's convenient. At least check Google before you talk out of your ass again.