Gaelic Speakers

honeychile · #1 09-04-2007, 03:14 PM

I'm giving a mini-history lesson next week to the local third graders. Since the name of this town is a result of folk etymology, it works better if I can pronounce certain words in Gaelic, or at least a brogue.

Can anyone recommend a really good site to listen to a brogue?

Also, how is County Leitrim pronounced?

Thanks!!

AlethiaSi · #2 09-04-2007, 03:18 PM

Hmmm all of the ladies that I work with listen to Clare FM (http://www.clarefm.ie/)

(they are all from ireland)

idk about county lietrum but i found this : http://www.leitrimlinks.com/

PhoenixAzul · #3 09-04-2007, 04:29 PM

The problem with this is you're asking for an accent, but accents are super super different all over Ireland. The Belfast/Northern Irish accent sounds nothing like a Dublin accent or a Cork accent. While Irish is taught in all schools in the Republic and some schools in the North, it isn't generally spoken in public by the vast majority of people. That is more likely to happen in Gaeltach (Irish speaking) areas. The Gaeltach areas (mostly rural western and southwestern Ireland where Irish is spoken on a regular basis) have even more different accent.

I'd start here : http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/irish/blas/

The page itself is in Irish, but there are links to the right with "beginner blas" that have tutorials with audio on how to pronounce general things.
And there's also a link to Radio Ulster's regular Irish language radio programming.

Also, to listen to other accents/get county news, try http://www.rte.ie/ RTE is the BBC equivalent for the Republic of Ireland.

ETA: sorry for the N. Ireland emphasis

bcdphie · #4 09-04-2007, 06:02 PM

The Gaelic dialect is still used in many parts of Newfoundland. There may be some Newfie sites with some helpful information.

SWTXBelle · #5 09-04-2007, 08:55 PM

I assume you mean Irish Gaelic - just be aware that there are several Gaelic languages. The Welsh and Scots would hate for you to leave them out!

icelandelf · #6 09-04-2007, 10:22 PM

try this link

Irish Sayings and Phrases

icelandelf · #7 09-04-2007, 10:34 PM

Sorry, meant to add--

Leitrim is pronounced Lee-trim

honeychile · #8 09-05-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I assume you mean Irish Gaelic - just be aware that there are several Gaelic languages. The Welsh and Scots would hate for you to leave them out!

Right after I posted the original post, I turned off the computer, and thought of this very thing!

Thanks for all the sites, everyone! *memorizing LEE-trim* I've done this for years, but when I heard Catherine Zeta-Jones do Welsh, English, Upper Class English, Northern English, Scots, Northern Irish, Southern Irish, and Australian accents on Letterman a few months ago, I decided that I need to be more "authentic".

MysticCat · #9 09-05-2007, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I assume you mean Irish Gaelic - just be aware that there are several Gaelic languages. The Welsh and Scots would hate for you to leave them out!

Thanks for beating me to it.

Irish Gaelic (Gaeilge) and Scots Gaelic (Gàidhlig) are two related but separate languages; Welsh is a Brythonic language, kin to Breton. All four are Celtic languages, and all four are, of course, different from the distintive accents used in speaking English.

I'll never forget the Burns Night dinner I went to, where a friend delivered a very well-written "Toast to the Lassies." The only problem was that he decided to use a "broguish" accent, which sounded much, much more Irish than Scottish. I almost couldna eat m' haggis.

AlphaFrog · #10 09-05-2007, 09:41 AM

Total hijack, but interesting fact....

I have a friend who really wants to be a police officer in Ireland, but she needs to learn Irish Gaelic first, because Irish people have the right to be read their rights and interrogated in Irish Gaelic.

GeekyPenguin · #11 09-05-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Total hijack, but interesting fact....

I have a friend who really wants to be a police officer in Ireland, but she needs to learn Irish Gaelic first, because Irish people have the right to be read their rights and interrogated in Irish Gaelic.

I have a friend who wants to go back to the UK or Ireland after law school and he is taking Gaelic at the undergrad campus right now for the same reason. I just think it's cool our undergrad offers Gaelic.

honeychile · #12 09-05-2007, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Thanks for beating me to it.

Irish Gaelic (Gaeilge) and Scots Gaelic (Gàidhlig) are two related but separate languages; Welsh is a Brythonic language, kin to Breton. All four are Celtic languages, and all four are, of course, different from the distintive accents used in speaking English.

I'll never forget the Burns Night dinner I went to, where a friend delivered a very well-written "Toast to the Lassies." The only problem was that he decided to use a "broguish" accent, which sounded much, much more Irish than Scottish. It almost couldna eat m' haggis.

LOL - I was taught a few songs by friends from Motherwell. To this day, I can't sing them straight, I have to sing them with a brogue.

*Th' Norrrrrtherrrrn Lights of auld Aberdeen....*

PhoenixAzul · #13 09-05-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Thanks for beating me to it.

Irish Gaelic (Gaeilge) and Scots Gaelic (Gàidhlig) are two related but separate languages; Welsh is a Brythonic language, kin to Breton. All four are Celtic languages, and all four are, of course, different from the distintive accents used in speaking English.

I'll never forget the Burns Night dinner I went to, where a friend delivered a very well-written "Toast to the Lassies." The only problem was that he decided to use a "broguish" accent, which sounded much, much more Irish than Scottish. It almost couldna eat m' haggis.

Heheh,

"Some hae meat and canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it;
But we hae meat, and we can eat,
Sae let the Lord be thankit."

Burns was a cheeky bastard. Now to your friends credit, the Ulster Scots (Scots Irish) sound a little bit between both accents. It doesn't help that most live in Northern Ireland, and so they have the sort of strange emphasis and staccato.

(for an example of a typical Northern Irish (Belfast) accent, click here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=14162010 and wait until it gets to Martin McGuinness talking.)

MysticCat · #14 09-05-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

LOL - I was taught a few songs by friends from Motherwell. To this day, I can't sing them straight, I have to sing them with a brogue.

*Th' Norrrrrtherrrrn Lights of auld Aberdeen....*

Now, thanks to you, I have this running through my head:

Just a wee deoch an doris, just a wee drap, that's a'.
Just a wee deoch an doris afore ye gang awa.
There's a wee wifie waitin' in a wee but 'n' ben.
If you can say, 'It's a braw bricht moonlicht nicht,'
Then yer a'richt, ye ken.

Glitter650 · #15 09-07-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

Right after I posted the original post, I turned off the computer, and thought of this very thing!

when I heard Catherine Zeta-Jones do Welsh, English, Upper Class English, Northern English, Scots, Northern Irish, Southern Irish, and Australian accents on Letterman a few months ago, I decided that I need to be more "authentic".

Is there a clip of this anywhere ?