Eliminating Bigs and Littles?

KSUViolet06 · #1 10-01-2006, 04:07 AM

I remember hearing from my school's Greek Advisor that there were a few NPCs that decided to completely eliminate these types of mentoring programs from their chapters because of some of the issues they can cause within a chapter (i.e. with selection and such). And no, I'm not talking about restructuring it into something different like (for example) ADPi has done with the Diamond thing. I mean not allowing these types of things at all.

Has anyone's HQ actually done this, or am I just hearing things?

jon1856 · #2 10-01-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I remember hearing from my school's Greek Advisor that there were a few NPCs that decided to completely eliminate these types of mentoring programs from their chapters because of some of the issues they can cause within a chapter (i.e. with selection and such). And no, I'm not talking about restructuring it into something different like (for example) ADPi has done with the Diamond thing. I mean not allowing these types of things at all.

Has anyone's HQ actually done this, or am I just hearing things?

SAE did have, for many years a Little Sisters program. And those Little Sisters did become Big Sisters to the pledges. But several years ago, that program was stopped.

My big sister is still, to this day, my best friend.

Not sure about current status of Big Brother program. We had that in my chapter.

jadis96 · #3 10-01-2006, 11:39 AM

Jon I think what KSUviolet is talking about is eliminating bigs and littles from within the chapter. Offically our campus didn't allow sorority woman to have "big bros" for years and when ti was done it was always stated to be unoffical for that reason. I think KSUviolet is talking about eliminating sorority woman having big sis's competely and same for the guys not have big brothers.

Anyway to the point I haven't heard anything about it, but I am finding I am out of the loop these days.

jon1856 · #4 10-01-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jadis96

Jon I think what KSUviolet is talking about is eliminating bigs and littles from within the chapter. Offically our campus didn't allow sorority woman to have "big bros" for years and when ti was done it was always stated to be unoffical for that reason. I think KSUviolet is talking about eliminating sorority woman having big sis's competely and same for the guys not have big brothers.

Anyway to the point I haven't heard anything about it, but I am finding I am out of the loop these days.

I thought so. The Little Sister program was set up by National and IIRC was ended in part due to legal issues ( what program these days does not have an oar or two in that puddle for many reason

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Am interested in hearing what is going on/happening with Big Brother/Big Sister within chapters.

Buttonz · #5 10-01-2006, 12:37 PM

As far as I know, I haven't heard anything about totally getting rid of bigs/littles in SDT.

I think it wouldn'tbe a good idea at all

FSUZeta · #6 10-01-2006, 01:24 PM

gosh, i hope that that is not true-i think that big sisters serve a great purpose in a chapter. they serve as guides, role models and a special shoulder to lean on when needed-not to mention the provider of cool new member and initiation gifts!!

BamaDad DZ · #7 10-01-2006, 06:27 PM

My daughter is getting her big sister at Bama in the next few days. She is super excited to see who she gets from the chapter. It seems a shame that some sororities may consider abandoning the concept.

AUDeltaGam · #8 10-01-2006, 07:02 PM

As a member of my chapter's charter class, we didn't have big sisters (obviously) and I know that it would have been nice to have that experience. I have the best little sister ever, and I would hate for some groups to not continue the big/little tradition.

macallan25 · #9 10-01-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jon1856

I thought so. The Little Sister program was set up by National and IIRC was ended in part due to legal issues ( what program these days does not have an oar or two in that puddle for many reason

)

Am interested in hearing what is going on/happening with Big Brother/Big Sister within chapters.

I don't know of any chapters of SAE that don't do big/little.

Big Bro night is as fun as it gets.

ADPi Conniebama · #10 10-01-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I remember hearing from my school's Greek Advisor that there were a few NPCs that decided to completely eliminate these types of mentoring programs from their chapters because of some of the issues they can cause within a chapter (i.e. with selection and such). And no, I'm not talking about restructuring it into something different like (for example) ADPi has done with the Diamond thing. I mean not allowing these types of things at all.

Has anyone's HQ actually done this, or am I just hearing things?

ALPHA DELTA PI has not mentioned anything like that happening. In fact, we not only have diamond sisters (big/little) we have prides, and roar teams. "Set ups" like this help to diseminate specific cliques, plus get the new members involved sooner by learning about the sorority faster. Diamond sisters remain the same throughout the membership but prides and roar teams change up year to year or semester to semester.

I see no reason to get rid of this. There is no hazing or special treatment by the chapter for different sisters. And, yea different prides or diamond sisters might have more fun (and might accomplish more) but that is because of the differences of the sisters in the groups, not a mismanagement of the chapter.

carnation · #11 10-01-2006, 07:59 PM

That is so COOL how ADPi has all those groups!

jon1856 · #12 10-01-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I don't know of any chapters of SAE that don't do big/little.

Big Bro night is as fun as it gets.

That is was Bro, that is was.

Elephant Walk · #13 10-01-2006, 10:01 PM

big bro night was one of my favorites of pledging.

trideltrockstar · #14 10-02-2006, 09:20 AM

I think it would be an awful idea to eliminate bigs and littles. While it may cause problems initially with the selection process, usually that drama settles down pretty quickly. The purpose of a big sister is to help the little sister get to know everyone in the house and act as a mentor during her new member period. I think that's so important and I can't imagine my sorority experience without my big and little!

33girl · #15 10-02-2006, 09:59 AM

I believe KKG eliminated it, realized it was a horrible idea, and brought it back.

Getting rid of bigs and littles is ridiculous - brings us closer to being a club than a Greek organization - and any reasoning along the lines of "it gets rid of cliques" is completely asinine. Sororities are always going to have cliques within them, everyone just needs to deal with it. If it wasn't bigs/littles and families, it would be class standing or everyone who lives in the left wing of the house or something else. If the NPC doesn't want cliques, they need to change their expansion procedures so the houses don't get so huge that cliques are pretty much guaranteed.