Getting a Bid from Someone You Didn't Pref

carnation · #1 08-28-2006, 10:53 PM

We talked about this briefly here quite awhile back but never did much with it...

More and more, I hear from girls who went to, say, AB and CD for prefs. Nobody called them to see if they would accept a bid from someone they didn't pref nor did they get a call from Panhellenic telling them that they didn't match. Then they opened their envelopes not to find a bid from AB or CD but one from from Cruddy Phi Cruddy, whom they'd cut on the first day. A week ago.

I've already heard it three times this year. How can a Panhellenic get away with that? Can you imagine the shock? I asked one girl who told me this had happened to 2 of her suitemates what the girls did and she replied that they didn't even go down to accept or decline the bids, they just drove home.

Have any of you heard of this? Do you think that it's something that some Panhellenics do to attempt to help smaller groups?

texas*princess · #2 08-28-2006, 11:05 PM

Wow.

That's crazy.

If they didn't get a bid from the two groups they preffed, and declined the bid from the random group that they had already cut/got cut from, would that forbid them from trying COR for the whole year until FR started up again?

That's a bummer

Is that even "legal" for the Panhellenic to do that if they technically did not match? Why couldn't they just try to see if she would accept a snap bid from another group?

I have a ton of questions!!

carnation · #3 08-28-2006, 11:13 PM

I"m full of questions too and it has happened to girls we know of on least 3 campuses. What are they thinking--that the girls would be so thrilled just to get a bid, any bid, that they would happily run to the new group, no questions asked?

Or, as a Sig Ep here asked, "At the schools where this happened, was the Panhellenic president a member of the group they got the bids from?"

LOL.

violetpretty · #4 08-28-2006, 11:22 PM

One would think that the girls would get a call saying that they didn't match with either house, thus making them eligible for COR. Sure, they might think about a snap bid, but if you don't get that "you didn't match" phonecall, they're probably stoked and pumped for a bid from AB or CD. Plus, that would just be totally unfair if the forced matching actually bound these girls for a calendar year.

TigerOwl · #5 08-28-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by carnation

I"m full of questions too and it has happened to girls we know of on least 3 campuses. What are they thinking--that the girls would be so thrilled just to get a bid, any bid, that they would happily run to the new group, no questions asked?

Or, as a Sig Ep here asked, "At the schools where this happened, was the Panhellenic president a member of the group they got the bids from?"

LOL.

Carnation,
If I knew the 3 campuses, I would be on the phone tomorrow with their Panhellenic Advisor to specifically ask that question. But that's just me! I have never, ever heard of that happening. These groups must have had their snap bids ready going into pref!

honeychile · #6 08-28-2006, 11:36 PM

Am I the only one who's dying to see a "Cruddy Phi Cruddy" t-shirt now?

TigerOwl · #7 08-28-2006, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by honeychile

Am I the only one who's dying to see a "Cruddy Phi Cruddy" t-shirt now?

No you are NOT the only one---I just couldn't bring myself to retype it!!!

AchtungBaby80 · #8 08-28-2006, 11:59 PM

I have never heard of this happening, but I can't understand how anyone could get away with doing that! It would be one thing if the girls had put a sorority they didn't pref down on their pref cards, but to just wind up with a bid from some random chapter they cut really early in rush just seems wrong. I don't blame 'em...I probably would've simply driven home, too.

KSUViolet06 · #9 08-29-2006, 12:09 AM

The only instance I can think of (of getting a bid from somewhere you didn't pref) is if someone is NOT BID BY ANYONE SHE PREFS (rare instance but it happens), but is snap bidded by a group she dropped earlier on that ended up not making quota.

adpi*violet · #10 08-29-2006, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by carnation

More and more, I hear from girls who went to, say, AB and CD for prefs. Nobody called them to see if they would accept a bid from someone they didn't pref nor did they get a call from Panhellenic telling them that they didn't match. Then they opened their envelopes not to find a bid from AB or CD but one from from Cruddy Phi Cruddy, whom they'd cut on the first day. A week ago.

I believe the university of Texas at Austin is doing something like that this year. It is called the Guranteed Bid System. Now I am certianly not on the up and up regarding it, and when it was explained to me, I was still very confused. It was something about placing all the girls, even without snap bids and it could very well possibly be a bid from a group the PNM did not attend a Preference party for.
Would anyone who knows for sure care to elaborate and explain it better?

SoCalGirl · #11 08-29-2006, 03:01 AM

I'd want to know if the girls' Rho Chis were Cruddy Phi Cruddy's who conviently forgot to call the girls before accepting a snap bid on their behalf...

PeppyGPhiB · #12 08-29-2006, 03:01 AM

were a PNM and this happened to me, I'd be raising you-know-what. By no means does this seem to be "mutual selection," and any woman going through rush should be able to decline membership to any group. Am I the only one that thinks this is an incredibly clueless policy on the part of panhellenics? It undermines the recruitment process, particularly if a woman ends up committed unknowingly to an organization she may know little about. Was snap bidding not working?

I think it's great that campuses are aiming to be more inclusive, but women (and the sororities) should still be able to decide whether they want to join a specific chapter.

carnation · #13 08-29-2006, 06:32 AM

I'm betting it came from a combination of young and inexperienced Panhellenic directors plus some pushy sorority members. Beginning jobs in student life pay abominably so with inexperience,a lot of sketchy stuff flies by and I have seen some

things happen since my 6 oldest girls started college (the first went in 2000). Things that no one challenged, not even local alum clubs or advisors, so nothing was done.

But that's one of the very worst...

dvs-dz · #14 08-29-2006, 06:59 AM

OK, I'm confused.

Is this a situation where the PNM did not write Cruddy Phi Cruddy on her bid card? If so, then I would think that the bid offer from CPC would be non-binding as the PNM did not bind herself on the bid card.

I've only known one instance where a PNM was put in a sorority which she didn't pref, but that was by her choice (she was a bit of a ditz).

FSUZeta · #15 08-29-2006, 07:20 AM

yes. carnation means that the girls put ONLY the names of the two chapters where they actually attended the pref. parties. then magically, when they opened up their bid envelope, there was cruddy phi cruddy, whom they had dropped early in the recruitment week!!

i tell you what, this political correctness/everyone is even/we are all the same is really starting to get to me!!