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Old 07-12-2005, 06:26 PM
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Hazing Allegations Investigated: Kappa Alpha Order, U. Florida

The Alligator reports that alleged hazing by the Kappa Alpha Order chapter at the U. of Florida is being investigated, and that the chapter is on interim suspension:

http://www.alligator.org/pt2/050711charge.php

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Kappa Alpha President Dan Boda said his chapter's hazing rituals aren't what they once were.

"The momentum of hazing in KA has been slowed down in the past couple years," he said. "This incident will put a firm stop to it."

UPD reports detailing . . . [the] allegations have been handed to Student Judicial Affairs, and a hearing with Kappa Alpha is being scheduled.

The organization is on interim suspension prohibiting Kappa Alpha from taking part in any chapter activities on or off campus, and the chapter house is closed until the hearing.

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Old 07-13-2005, 12:19 AM
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Am I the only one who cringes at the term "hazing ritual"? I think of our ritual as such a beautiful and wonderful tie that bonds us and to put hazing in that phrase just makes me cringe. I know, the media aren't educated in terminology, but the way it is worded in this article makes it sound like a quote from the Pres.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:08 AM
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Am I the only one who cringes at the term "hazing ritual"?
I understand what you're saying but rituals, like many other words and things, can be good or bad.

What struck me was the president's comment about hazing having slowed down, but this will stop it.

In other words, we knew we were breaking the rules (and the law, probably), but we'll be good from now on.

It's that kind of attitude that kills chapters.
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Old 07-13-2005, 02:34 PM
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Yes, DeltAlum, I noticed that comment you mentioned, and I agree with you.
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Old 07-13-2005, 07:48 PM
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Re: Hazing Allegations Investigated: Kappa Alpha Order, U. Florida

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The Alligator reports that alleged hazing by the Kappa Alpha Order chapter at the U. of Florida is being investigated, and that the chapter is on interim suspension:

http://www.alligator.org/pt2/050711charge.php

Excerpts from the article:

Kappa Alpha President Dan Boda said his chapter's hazing rituals aren't what they once were.

"The momentum of hazing in KA has been slowed down in the past couple years," he said. "This incident will put a firm stop to it."

UPD reports detailing . . . [the] allegations have been handed to Student Judicial Affairs, and a hearing with Kappa Alpha is being scheduled.

The organization is on interim suspension prohibiting Kappa Alpha from taking part in any chapter activities on or off campus, and the chapter house is closed until the hearing.
It's time for the lawyers. It's being investigated. You can't suspend and close the house while you investigate.
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Old 07-17-2005, 10:00 AM
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sure seems like the hazing was a part of the plan, according to the article.
that's terrible.
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Old 07-17-2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: Re: Hazing Allegations Investigated: Kappa Alpha Order, U. Florida

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It's time for the lawyers. It's being investigated. You can't suspend and close the house while you investigate.
Actually, I think that happens fairly often under the guise of "suspension."
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Old 07-17-2005, 06:55 PM
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Re: Hazing Allegations Investigated: Kappa Alpha Order, U. Florida

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The organization is on interim suspension prohibiting Kappa Alpha from taking part in any chapter activities on or off campus, and the chapter house is closed until the hearing. [/I]
I think that "interim" is the key word here. I see chapters all of the time put on interim supension. It is better to do something temporary than just completely getting rid of the chapter at first inkling of wrong doing. Plus when you know your chapter is in trouble and think it might be gone soon, alot of people will just raise hell while they still can. This puts an official stop to activity.
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Old 07-30-2005, 11:15 AM
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Unfortunately Kappa Alpha has been suspended from UF until Fall 2007.
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Old 07-31-2005, 10:21 AM
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Hazing ritual is probably better termed "ritualized hazing", meaning that the hazing has no ties to your ritual, but through reproduction, it has been ceremonialized to the point where members believe it to be part of it., thus continuing the cycle.
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Old 07-31-2005, 12:33 PM
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Hazing ritual is probably better termed "ritualized hazing", meaning that the hazing has no ties to your ritual, but through reproduction, it has been ceremonialized to the point where members believe it to be part of it., thus continuing the cycle.
yeah, i think that is a better description. unfortunately, independents hear a fraternity or sorority member talk about the Ritual of their group as being lifechanging etc and they will think immediately of hazing because of statements like those from the KA member. our Ritual (the ceremony) dictates what our group stands for, sometimes in an abstract form. but when we go through it and take a pledge to our org, we are saying we will uphold the values and actions deamed appropriate by our individual organization. thus we should take our Ritual with us everyday and it should become our daily ritual (actions, activities, etc). this understood, there should not be ritualized hazing or "hazing rituals" in any of our chapters. in a perfect world i guess. unfortunately many greeks do not know or understand their ritual enough to be able to know what they are supossed to be standing for and what they are pledging themselves too. honestly i think more education in chapters, with each member, about this kind of stuff and more peer accountability would almost completely eliminate hazing in greek life. we afre lucky we have these values and Ritual to base ourselves on. sports teams, etc do not and that is what sets us apart from them, makes our hazing different-there is more of a reason to eliminate it other than it is illegal and dangerous, and that is tradition and Rital/ritual.

sorry about the long post. this isa topic i feel very strongly about. education is key.
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Old 07-31-2005, 01:23 PM
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Agree as it should be in most if not all GLOs. But, as can be seen by so many reports, it is not takenn seriously enough.

As I said in another post the 3-5 Fraternitys who had the most Hazing incidents was very suprising to me.

No, I will not repeat them as have deleted the information I got them from. Maybe this will make some people think about if their GLO was on the list.
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Old 08-01-2005, 01:39 PM
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I don't understand why all of you are bent out of shape about hazing at UF......it happens in every frat there.
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Old 08-01-2005, 03:39 PM
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"ALL", ""FRATS""?

Isnt LXA there as a Fraternity? I dont know without checking but if they do, they will be in a world of Crap if found out!

Actually sorry to say, but this bozo stuck his mouth and shoe right up his rear. Damn, how stupid!

Stuff like this is like a wild fire and runs rampant across Campus.

Thanks for Making us all look bad you Moron!

Alum would and should hve been used on this kid!
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Old 08-01-2005, 04:24 PM
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Tom, you should really go to Gainesville and see the geek life there. Myabe then you'd understand.
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