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Old 07-21-2004, 04:08 PM
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advice about a renegade GLO chapter

Unfortunately my friend ,Hannah Lynne, did not have the good fortune to join a great glo like Chi O. Instead lets say she went XYZ. Well her entire experience in XYZ was bad! It was a chapter ran by bad apples. Basically there was some hazing and a lot of people were in trouble by nationals when she pledged. Then Hannah Lynne turned in her pin because she was tired of messing with the controversy, and on top of that her treasurer wouldn't let her do a payment plan because the treasurer told another sister, "I don't like H.L. and I want her to be my twin. "( they had the same big sis)Okay so Hannah Lynne quits before initiation, and the sorority still has her on the roster in order to keep her good grade average. So Hannah Lynne is not being allowed to join another GLO because XYZ told nationals she was initiated. To make matters worse the whole chapter never paid their dues because the treasurer stole the whole sorority's money! WHAT SHOULD HANNAH LYNNE DO? I'd love for her to be cleared so she could join Chi Omega. Any advice would be great!
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:17 PM
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Was Nationals informed of the treasurer's illegal activity? Was the university? This is should carry some cred. when she explains what happened to her.

The best advice i have is to go to your Greek advisor if you have one and spill the beans on the renegade chapter so that s/he will take it upon themselves to call Nationals and tell them...no doubt, there's a way that she can dispute that she's ever been initiated, esp. if she still has some friends in the XYZ chapter (other NMs, nice sisters) that can back her up.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:20 PM
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I know they found out about the treasurer because nationals came after the whole sorority for not paying their dues....
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:22 PM
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There has to be someone else that this has happened to if they are in such trouble financially. Maybe she should seek out some other deactivated members and then can present their case together.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:23 PM
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immediately after innitiation our new innitiates sign a book. This ceritfies to the chapter and our national that they have been innitiated. The book is not part of our ritual. Granted we don't normally show it to people but it is certainly doesn't have any secret information. Anyhow, if someone was saying that they were or weren't innitiated, that would prove it for my chapter.
I hope that helps.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:23 PM
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If the treasurer had stole the chapter's money and Nationals were never paid, I would think HQ would be all over this chapter.
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:28 PM
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you'd think that nationals wouldn't have info on any of the new girls if none of them "paid initiation fees". Anyhow I'll tell Hannah about the book thing, thanks StaceKat!
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:37 PM
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Also don't NPCs usually make you sign a form right before/after you initiate? If XYZ can't produce the form, there's the proof that she didn't initiate!
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Old 07-21-2004, 04:50 PM
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I forgot about that, but we signed papers too! DUH!
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:05 PM
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We only signed after our pinning ceremony, we never signed the book again after initiation though...
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Old 07-21-2004, 06:50 PM
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We send in a list of projected initiates 4 weeks before Initiation. Along with that list goes a check that pays the intiation fee for each woman. No list, no fee....no badge.

Immediately after Initation we send another list....this one is a record of those who were just initiated. HQ compiles the rosters/records from these lists, along with a roster that we send in each semester (listing who left school, who graduated, etc.). Advisers also double check these lists for accuracy, etc.

Surely HQ could look back on that information to determine if she was initiated or not. (Course there's ways to lie about all of this, but I'm sure if she and someone from XYZ (adviser, area president, friendly alum, etc.) did enough investigation they could come to an answer.

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Old 07-21-2004, 07:38 PM
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This is something that Hannah needs to discuss with an advisor, preferably not a local advisor. There should be paperwork for whatever action she took. If she didn't sign anything or pay the fees as part of the initiation process, then XYZ has no proof that they initiated her. On the other hand, if the paperwork to break her pledge was not completed, then XYZ's HQ will still have her on the rolls as a pledged member. Regardless, even if she gets the situation cleared up, she has to sit out a year (from the day she accepted the bid to XYZ) before she can accept a bid to any other NPC group. If things are really that bad in XYZ, someone in their international needs to know (they may already know some of it but officers like to hear the real story when a member decides to leave)
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Old 07-22-2004, 12:48 AM
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I'm with a couple of people on this. Our AOII chapter also signs the book. We sign it at our luncheon after initiation, so that may be a way to go and all. Another is an advisor. Ask her to email their [inter]national president that she has a question about something. If she wants to go into with the pres then she can, and she can point her in the right direction to go.

If she was never initiated then they can't use her grades, or keep her from joining another house. That's messed up!
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Old 07-25-2004, 01:40 AM
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UPDATE!

Hannah Lynne was called by nationals after she got in touch with the greek advisor at school. Apparently that sorority and a fraternity on campus are both in trouble for listing members for their gpas that are de-pledges. So the renegade chapter is in HUGE trouble! They were already on probation for the hazing stuff. Now the chapter is probably not going to have recruitment because the school is trying to get that fraternity and sorority's charter revoked!
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Old 07-25-2004, 12:11 PM
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This happened to my chapter in 1992, the treasurer had been the same person for several years, and they were managing to pocket the money and not send in initiate dues and applications. It's sad, but I'm glad we where able to recharter in 2001.
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