do I email the Greek advisor?

[CardinalSM]

Ok, here is the situation. I was checking out the other chapter websites from our school, just for comparison to ours. One of the orgs has listed that they had the top sorority GPA and the top Greek GPA for the 2003-2004 school year. Here's the problem, we had the top sorority and Greek GPA for Fall semester and as far as I know, the grade reports are not in for the spring. We also won the scholarship cup for Panhellenic for the top grades. . .

Number 2: The same org also has a picture of one of our girls who is a Pi Chi. It is hard at our school for Pi Chi affiliations to remain a secret because we are a small school. THe PNMs will look at the website and think she is an XYZ.

So, what do I do about these two things? Should I email the Greek advisor? Post back or PM me!

[lyrica9]

yes. i know during the summer our panhellenic recruitment gal checks the websites to make sure there's nothing wrong going on, perhaps y'all need that too?

but yes, contact the advisor, cause that's pretty tacky of them, especially if you both list yourselves as top in grades, because its misleading and confusing for pnms.

[AlphaPhiBubbles]

I'm not really sure what to tell you about the first problem...cuz I know at least on my campus the whole "top GPA" is highly controversial as everyone seems to think they have it. Not to say i don't believe you, but I don't know you so who is to say.

The Pi Chi thing does seem to be a problem though, for rush anyway because you want those girls to remain anonymous. I think you have the right idea going to the Greek Advisor or the Panhellenic President

[CardinalSM]

Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles
I'm not really sure what to tell you about the first problem...cuz I know at least on my campus the whole "top GPA" is highly controversial as everyone seems to think they have it. Not to say i don't believe you, but I don't know you so who is to say.

For Fall 2003 the Psi Gamma chapter of Chi Omega had the top GPA with a 3.4 average. This was higher than the other 3 NPC orgs and higher than all of the the other average GPAs of each of the NPC, IFC, and NPHC organizations. For this reason we won the scholarship cup. We were significantly above all of the other orgs by at least .2

It is undisputed, this org definitely did not have the top GPA for that semester. It is possible that they may have gotten it in the Spring; however, that would still mean that their statement on their website is false because it said for that school year. I hope that clears it up.

[lifesaver]

I dont mean this to sound mean, but its the only way I can get my point across. I tend to be blunt. I apologize in advance.

Dont bother your greek advisor. She seriously has more important things to worry about. Use the proper chain of command. Have your president contact their president and have her be super sweet polite about it, "I'm sure it was an oversight on your scholastic chair's part, but the grade reports show my chapter has the highest grades. Your website lists incorrect info. What can we do to help correct the mistake?"

If they give you grief, then take it to panhellenic, which your ga will be at. Adress it at that point.

Even though youre in the right, youre gonna look bitchy if ya go to the ga for it without trying to resolve it through the proper channels. Cause he/she's gonna have to drop what they are doing (if they even follow through) to chase down a prez, when its something you could and should do.

What most people dont understand is that greek life is training camp for the real world... with parties. Example: In 10 years at your advertising agency or accounting firm or wherever it is you work and you have a problem with a co-worker in another department, you dont go to the president of the company, you talk to your boss and have them talk to the boss in the other department. You get tons of respect for using chain of command. It shows you're an adult and understand organizational structure.

Another benefit of chain of command. After recruitment when the infractions will fly, and they always do, if you have taken care of everything else on a low key, when a serious issue comes up that deserves to be taken to the greek advisor, it will get much more attention and be taken much more seriously becasue you havent gone running to her every 6 minutes complaining about this or that.

As for the chick in the picture on the site. Tell panhelllenic about it. Its their job to handle that stuff. Not yours, not the greek advisor. If I was him/her and someone came to me about a girl on a picture on some website somewhere, I'd deal with it, but think they were petty for coming to me to deal with it when I clearly had many other, larger issues to deal with; university officials, other greeks, etc.


Dont go accusing me of not understanding how panhellenic works either. Ive been greek for 12 years and as an undergrad was the IFC delegate to PC for 2 years. I understand the importance of anonimity of recruitment councelors and panhellenic officers. I'm just saying dont bog the ga down with minutia like this. Handle it the proper way. You'll get a lot more mileage out of it.

Good luck in recruitment.

[MysticCat]

Co-sign on lifesaver's very good advice.

[KSigkid]

Co-Sign with Lifesaver; you can get a lot more done if you deal directly with the chapter, and it will leave you on better footing after the whole things is settled.

[aopirose]

Good post lifesaver! Following the chain of command is always the best route.

[dakareng]

Lifesaver is absolutely correct. Go to the chapter. No one likes to hear of things second hand and it will cause more resentment if that chapter is 'told' by the GA than if they hear your concerns directly. I agree that this situation and how you handle it is applicable to future work-related conflicts. In the work place, you are always supposed to go directly to that person... if you go to the supervisor, the first question is 'what did she say when you asked her about it?' if you haven't gone to that person first, you'll be told to do so.

If the picture has other women in it, it it entirely possible that the webmaster didn't know that the member in the pic is a rush counselor. That could be an innocent error. Regarding the scholarship claim, check with your chapter president or scholarship officer befoe you confront them. It is entirely possible that the grade reports are out but unless you ARE the officer in charge of it, you won't have seen it. I have already received a lot of scholarship reports from spring semester already.

[CardinalSM]

Thanks for all of the great advice y'all! I was planning on talking to our chapter president before talking to the GA anyhow so this just confirms that that's the best idea.

[imsohappythatiama]

Originally posted by lifesaver
What most people dont understand is that greek life is training camp for the real world... with parties.

This is so very true..I am always telling this to my chapters! Excellent advice, lifesaver.

[damasa]

Do it yourself or don't do it at all. Also, you shouldn't stress over such petty little things.

You sorority girls do things that make fraternity boys laugh for hours

[Erik P Conard]

I recall the Betas had won the top grade slot about 78 of the
last 80 years. TKE and AKL the only ones to slip in...
But, in the 50s, the top GPA (Betas) was about 2.6, and the all
mens' average about 2.4, gdi's about 2.2...top sorority was likely
pi phi, about 2.7...what has happened in these intervening years?

[ZZ-kai-]

I do believe that was at one of our Kansas chapters, pretty impressive record.

Originally posted by Erik P Conard
I recall the Betas had won the top grade slot about 78 of the
last 80 years. TKE and AKL the only ones to slip in...
But, in the 50s, the top GPA (Betas) was about 2.6, and the all
mens' average about 2.4, gdi's about 2.2...top sorority was likely
pi phi, about 2.7...what has happened in these intervening years?

[PhiPsiRuss]

I was going to recomend that you firebomb this other chapter, but everyone offered better advice.