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Old 02-14-2004, 11:37 PM
Optimist Prime Optimist Prime is offline
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Germany's National Anthem

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt.
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt.

Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang
Sollen in der Welt behalten
Ihren alten schönen Klang,
Uns zu edler Tat begeistern
Unser ganzes Leben lang.
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang.
Deutsche Frauen, deutsche Treue,
Deutscher Wein und deutscher Sang.

Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Für das deutsche Vaterland!
Danach laßt uns alle streben
Brüderlich mit Herz und Hand!
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit
Sind des Glückes Unterpfand.
Blüh' im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland.
Blüh' im Glanze dieses Glückes,
Blühe, deutsches Vaterland.

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Und im Unglück nun erst recht.
Nur im Unglück kann die Liebe
Zeigen, ob sie stark und echt.
Und so soll es weiterklingen
Von Geschlechte zu Geschlecht:
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Und im Unglück nun erst recht.
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Und im Unglück nun erst recht.

Ius, concordia, libertas
Pro Germana patria,
Haec fraterne nos petamus
Dextra atque anima!
Ius, concordia, libertas
Sunt salutis pignora,
Flore in salutis luce
Tu, Germana patria!
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Old 02-15-2004, 12:12 AM
G8Ralphaxi G8Ralphaxi is offline
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Ummm...I'm not sure why you're posting this. But you've got an outdated version. There was some editing done post-WWII. The stanzas that begin "Deutschland, Deutschland über alles" are now omitted.

For the non-German speakers, that's because the Germans very accurately realized that the sentiments expressed in those stanzas were not so popular anymore:

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt,
Wenn es stets zu Schutz und Trutze
Brüderlich zusammenhält,
Von der Maas bis an die Memel,
Von der Etsch bis an den Belt -
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt.
Deutschland, Deutschland über alles,
Über alles in der Welt.

Germany, Germany above everything,
Above all else in the world,
Whenever we stand together
As brothers in defense and defiance
From the Maas to the Memel, [rivers bordering German-speaking areas on the west and east, beyond the current national borders]
From the Etsch to the Belt [rivers bordering on the north and south, the Belt is w/in Germany's current borders but the Etsch is not]
Germany, Germany above everything
Above all else in the world.

The lyrics are from a poem written in the mid-1800s, before Germany was even a united country. It was just a loose collection of principalities (for the U.S. history buffs, less organized than we were under the Articles of Confederation) So the nationalistic sentiments were more of a "let's join together as one nation" NOT "let's conquer all of our neighbors and kill millions of innocent Jews, Gypsies, Poles, homosexuals, and anyone else we don't like." But given the historical context, the lyrics just don't sound appropriate anymore.

Now, the remaining stanzas are not so objectionable. The 3rd stanza beginning "Einigheit und Recht und Freiheit" is encouraging the Germans to join together in brotherhood to seek unity, justice, and freedom. This is pretty much the only part that is sung anymore. The 2nd stanza is an ode to "German women, German loyalty, German wine and German songs."

Ok, enough history lessons. Ever now and then, I like to find some little way to make myself feel that I actually learned something in college. But I still wonder Billy, why the heck did you post this? Especially the old "politically incorrect" version???

Last edited by G8Ralphaxi; 02-15-2004 at 12:14 AM.
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Old 02-15-2004, 04:21 AM
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I posted because I did the U.S. one and the Canadian one.

I used the entire version because the poet wrote the whole thing and its not my place to change that, whatever the pc thing to do is. Also, when that was written, and how it was written, he wanted Germany to be in the Weimarer Republic phase of its history then so he wanted something to get people to see Germany as one country. This is like the German "this land is my land."

I also included the fourth verse by some other guy because i included other versions of the Canadian one. I'm wrecked write now, true, but not when posted it. I also included the latin part, because..

also, for those of you who don't know, the third verse is what Germany now uses for national anthem. Some people want the second verse banned, other people say those people are nuts. Some germans write "West Germans F**k Off on the remnants of the Berlin wall. That was just a random fact.
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Old 02-15-2004, 04:26 AM
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The unifaction of german is more important than anything else in the world, not that germany should rule the world. Its the same thing as any national anthem would have. And it doesn't talk about killing anyone.
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