Another Weird Question

[Taualumna]

What happens to your affiliation with a frat/sorority if you undergo a sex change? I mean, if Joe Smith of XYZ frat decides to become Jane Smith, then would she lose affilation because she became a woman? (No, I am not considering a sex change. I'm happy being a girl!)

[naglok]

Your affiliation would probably find reasons to get rid of you.

[mu_agd]

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[absolutuscchick]

I have no idea...but that's actually an interesting question!!

[FAB*SpiceySpice]

Originally posted by mu_agd
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[ChaosDST]

Originally posted by naglok
Your affiliation would probably find reasons to get rid of you.

...and they should

[Kevin]

Our rules state that you must be male... so if you're not male, you're out.

[ChaosDST]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Our rules state that you must be male... so if you're not male, you're out.

I guess someone from the ACLU would ask:

"Does this person have to FEEL like a male or just have to PHYSICALLY BE a male."

[Taualumna]

So say, Joe has had the surgery and is now Jane. What happens then? She not only feels like a woman but is physically female as well. I guess the ACLU can say that Jane's still genetically male...hmmmmm

Edited to change ALCU to ACLU....Taualumna always has typos.

[kddani]

Calling all members of the SHIM's.....

[Kevin]

Originally posted by ChaosDST
I guess someone from the ACLU would ask:

"Does this person have to FEEL like a male or just have to PHYSICALLY BE a male."

lol.. the ACLU can think what they want..

I'd be VERY shocked if I ever heard legislation about transgendered members come up at our Grand Chapter. And allowing them... I can't ever see something like that passing.

Who knows though, I'll bet we could have said the same thing about non-whites 50 years ago.

[kddani]

I think it would be unbelievable that this could have NEVER happened before.

Out of all the millions of sorority and fraternity members.... SOMEONE'S had to have had a sex change.

What a story for your group's magazine that would be....... hehe.... i'm picturing the glossy lead story in the Angelos of KD.... oh boy what an uproar that would be

[Taualumna]

I went to an all girls school and while there is no known case of any alumnae (or as we call them Old Girls (it's a British term. A few Canadian single gendered schools have strong connections to their British "public" school cousins, I guess)) undergoing gender reassignment, I've often wondered what happens to these ladies (gentlemen?) Would they still be welcome at alumnae events? Do they still receive newsletters?

[kappaloo]

Originally posted by Taualumna
I went to an all girls school and while there is no known case of any alumnae (or as we call them Old Girls (it's a British term. A few Canadian single gendered schools have strong connections to their British "public" school cousins, I guess)) undergoing gender reassignment, I've often wondered what happens to these ladies (gentlemen?) Would they still be welcome at alumnae events? Do they still receive newsletters?

For a school, I would assume they would still receive newsletters/be welcome...

For GLO... it's a sisterhood/brotherhood... and if you've switched genders you wouldn't really "fit" anymore. Though, I would expect for a transgendered person to probably understand this... after all, they know the organization and what it stands for.

[breathesgelatin]

Honestly, I can't imagine what would happen.

One comment I'd like to make is that since transgendered persons often don't "feel" as if they belong to their birth sex, I can't see, for example, a transgendered woman being interested in sorority life--she sees herself as male, so why would she want to join a women's group. Of course, then again, you have the compensation issues that many transgendered persons have--ie atransgendered man trying to compensate by being ultra-masculine when they feel like a woman.

Personally, if this situation arose, if it came into light, I think it would be very unclassy to depin this person. I don't know how it work out in an alum club situation, supposing that person wanted to become involved. It could be awkward. But I think it would just be plain mean to depin that person. They were a part of the siblinghood. Besides, most transgendered people struggle and fail to reclassify themselves legally as the sex they identify with. So technically, legally, these people are still their birth sex. Many of them are married, for example. So I'm not sure the "no longer a woman, only women are in our org" argument works.

It would certainly be a messy legal battle if it came to that.

And any org that chose to write that in to its Constitution might come out looking very poorly in history's eyes.