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Old 07-11-2003, 11:08 AM
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Exclamation Don't Let This Happen To You!!!

Good morning, folks.

It's been a while since I browsed GC, and unfortunately, there have been a few reasons.

First, my SIL is starting to grow fangs and fear sunlight from the number of blood transfusions she's required. It's par for the course with the type of cancer she has and the chemo regimen but it's still a PITA. God bless her, she's gotten to the point where she can tell the phlebotomist to take an extra tube of blood, 'cause they're going to need it for a type-and-cross later that night!

But the major thing that happened is a few weeks ago I was a victim of ID theft.

Imagine getting a phone call at 7 AM from a detective at your local police force that a woman was arrested in a town 50 miles away passing a bad check with your name, address, and drivers' license info.

That's what happened.

It freaks the sh*t out of me just thinking about it again.

Evidently, a career criminal decided that instead of finding a REAL job, she would invest in Office Depot supplies, a printer, scanner, laminator, and a subscription to a website in Anguilla that buys/collects DL info from state DMVs and sells them on the Internet. She bought access to the site, stole check routing numbers (which is a story in and of itself) then took names at random from well-heeled neighborhoods, printed up checks and passed them around. She'd been doing it for several months.

To put it mildly, I was eight shades of PISSED. I, along with a few other victims are pushing for felony ID theft charges (rather than just misdemeanor counterfeiting) to put this piece of trash away for 10+ years in the Texas State Hilton. That may or may not fly, depending on how energetic or lazy the Harris county DA's office is.

On top of this, there is paperwork to be filled out and verified so that I won't get screwed to the tune of several thousand dollars in thefts. Let's not even talk about the defenses I'm putting around my credit report either.

My situation is unusual--my IDs, wallet, and checks have never been stolen. The info came off of an offshore website that has no apologies about putting this info out there and making a profit from it. But for most people, it's simpler than that, so people: check out the article below that I got in my email, and take steps to CYA. Does it sound inconvenient? I assure you it's nothing compared to the inconvenience of prosecuting a court case.
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WAYS TO COUNTER IDENTITY THEFT

Read this and make a copy for your files in case you need to refer to it
someday. Hopefully you will never have to refer to it!!

A corporate attorney sent the following out to the employees in his company:

* The next time you order checks, have only your initials (instead of first
name) and last name put on them.

* If someone takes your check book, they will not know if you sign your
checks with just your initials or your first name but your bank will know
how you sign your checks.

* When you are writing checks to pay on your credit card accounts, DO NOT
put the complete account number on the "For" line. Instead, just put the
last four numbers. The credit card company knows the rest of the number and
anyone who might be handling your check as it passes through all the check
processing channels won't have access to it.

* Put your work phone # on your checks instead of your home phone. If you
have a PO Box, use that instead of your home o Never have your SS # printed
on your checks (DUH!) you can add it if it is necessary. But if you have it
printed, anyone can get it.

* Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine, do both sides
of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your
wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel.

* Keep the photocopy in a safe place. I also carry a photocopy of my
passport when I travel either here or abroad.

* We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed on us in
stealing a name, address, Social Security number, credit cards, etc.

Unfortunately I, an attorney, have firsthand knowledge because my wallet
was stolen last month. Within a week, the thieve(s) ordered an expensive
monthly cell phone package, applied for a credit card, had a credit line
approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to
change my driving record information online, and more.

But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this
happens to you or someone you know:

We have been told we should cancel our credit cards immediately. But the
key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know
whom to call. Keep those where you can find them easily.

* File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where it was stolen,
this proves to credit providers you were diligent, and is a first step
toward an investigation (if there ever is one).

But here's what is perhaps most important: (I never even thought to do this).

Call the three national credit reporting organizations immediately to place
a fraud alert on your name and Social Security number. I had never heard of
doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application
for credit was made over the Internet in my name.

The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your information
was stolen and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit.

By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all
the damage had been done.

There are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves'
purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert. Since then,
no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away
this weekend (someone turned it in). It seems to have stopped them in their
tracks.

The numbers are:

* Equifax: 1-800-525-6285
* Experian (formerly TRW): 1-888-397-3742
* Trans Union: 1-800-680-7289

* Social Security Administration (fraudline): 1-800-269-0271

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Be well and stay safe, everyone.....
Adrienne (A PNAM ready to go to full-scale war.....)
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Old 07-11-2003, 11:19 AM
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Adrienne, I'm so sorry this had to happen to you. Thank you for sharing your experience and thanks for posting the tips! Everyone should be prepared just in case.
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Old 07-11-2003, 11:20 AM
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Thanks for the heads up!

We all seem to think that horrible things "can't happen to me!" but in reality, it happens everyday to nice people. As the saying goes, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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Old 07-11-2003, 11:22 AM
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Oh, Adrienne, how awful for you! I hope y'all get her put away for a long time. Stealing things are bad enough, but stealing someone's ID is horrible. Thanks for the tips!
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Old 07-11-2003, 11:28 AM
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I'm so sorry you're going through this. Hope everything gets straightened out soon.

I would also add to your list, *never* carry your social security card unless you absolutely have to. A social security card does not bear a photo and can be used to get a duplicate driver's license, get access to your bank accounts, and/or apply for credit cards - plus your SSN is powerful info in its own right.

If your state puts SSNs on driver's licenses (I don't think many do any more), you can request a non-SSN number. The same with college student IDs. DO IT.
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:12 PM
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oh how much do i feel your pain......on my 20th b-day, i went to a club in nashville.....3 car loads of my sisters go down there, and on the way out, oops....2 of the 3 cars have been broken into....everyone's purses, wallets, cds....gone. my wallet (which, b/c i am so intelligent, had my soc. sec card in it, about $30, my checks, my atm card......my ID.....the whole thing. gone. they wrote over $9000 in bad checks in my name....had to close out my account, even though they wasted NO time in gettin money out. i couldn't go to target or kroger until they got it all cleared up (but, i might add that those 2 places are the ONLY two who tried to help me since they wanted them caught as well)....everyone else, even though i sent letters and signed legal isht to, still made harrassing phone calls to me and were complete a$$holes even though when i told them i mailed them stuff, they were like, "oh...so you did.....oops" jerks.

it took a lil over a year to get everything to stop......they opened accounts in my name, wrote all those bad checks......pretty much screwed me like, big time and it SUCKED. be glad your lil b*tch was caught b/c my guys are still at large. they even made IDs with their pics on it.... i was 44 on one, and 65 on another. and when one check was returned to me, they signed my name "maxine beltey".....or that's what it looked like. my name is neither "maxine" or "beltey"......still about it. this was almost 2 yrs ago.....
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Old 07-11-2003, 12:20 PM
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I work at a bank so I am dealing with Identity Theft all of the time. In the last year or so it has become a very big "business" for some criminals. It has become increasingly bad in the Southeastern Wisconsin/Northeastern Illinois area.

There are severe punishments for people who are convicted ofIdentity Theft but the problem is that some of these people are really really good at it, therefore really really hard to catch.

The other problem is that most people do not acquire someone's information from a lost purse/wallet or something like that. These criminals are using the internet and other Hi-Tech means. We are talking top notch computer equipment and printing equpiment.

To give you an example of how "sophisticated" these criminals have become, a man was caught in Milwaukee just a few weeks ago with an ATM "Scanner." It is a device that he could swipe or feed into an atm machine and somehow access the most previously used numbers. He could then use the device to act like a card and take money from those accounts he accessed. I always make to cancel out of my transactions twice now when I'm using an ATM machine.

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Old 07-11-2003, 12:28 PM
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There are severe punishments for people who are convicted with Identity Theft but the problem is that soem of these people are really really good at it.

The other problem is that most people do not acquire someone's information from a lost purse/wallet or something like that. These criminals are using the internet and other Hi-Tech means. We are talking top notch computer equipment and printing equpiment.
Damasa, you're absolutely right. This is exactly what happened to me. I saw with my own eyes the evidence that was collected: blank checks and a check-printing software program from an office supply store, scanners, laminators.......again, with this much effort she'd have done really well in a LEGAL job!

What's worse is protecting your info from being distributed on the internet for the picking. Check out what's for sale at www.publicdata.com. (Especially if you're from Texas). From what I understand there is a loophole in the Public Information Act that allows the sale/distribution of DPS info. It's like an ID theft supermarket.

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Old 07-11-2003, 01:01 PM
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I'm a prime target for this isht because my SSN is on my military ID and you can't not have it on there. If I get sick somewhere (panic attacks are a REALLY expensive civilian ER visit, as I found out back in March) I have to have my ID. So even if I don't take my purse with me somewhere, I always carry my ID in my pocket or give it to someone else to hold. Also, at school, you are your SSN or as they call it SID. No option for using a different number. Anywho, I hope that girl rots in jail for what she did...
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Old 07-11-2003, 01:15 PM
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Some fool here decided she would pull a scam like that on a local woman. Unfortunately for her, the woman is our DA!!! LOL!!! However, the DA is still going through the hell of reclaiming her financial life.
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Old 07-11-2003, 01:17 PM
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Also, at school, you are your SSN or as they call it SID. No option for using a different number. Anywho, I hope that girl rots in jail for what she did...
What if you're an international student and therefore don't have an SSN?

Ditto on the rotting in jail...
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Old 07-11-2003, 03:08 PM
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Thank you for sharing this information.
I will make a note of all of those suggestions.


Best of luck
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Old 07-11-2003, 03:19 PM
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Also, at school, you are your SSN or as they call it SID. No option for using a different number. Anywho, I hope that girl rots in jail for what she did...
Thankfully, UMD isn't using SSN anymore for ID's.
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Old 07-11-2003, 03:33 PM
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What if you're an international student and therefore don't have an SSN?

Ditto on the rotting in jail...
Until UF switched to a new id system this past January, we used SSNs. International students were issused a dummy SSN that began with an 800 or 888 (depending on which dept. issued it). Any student who wanted to get a dummy number instead of using their real SSN could, but you had to jump through hoops to get it.
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