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Old 03-18-2003, 10:01 PM
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Exclamation this should make it CLEAR why the D9 was created and still exists

check out the FRANK discussion:

http://forums.greekchat.com/gcforums...5&pagenumber=1

i, for one, am PROUD to see honesty in action on GC, and would like to thank the posters on that thread.
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Old 03-19-2003, 11:13 AM
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Yeah, I was reading that earlier this morning. It's amazing how times have changed for the better.
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Old 03-20-2003, 06:25 PM
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Re: this should make it CLEAR why the D9 was created and still exists

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I, for one, am PROUD to see honesty in action on GC, and would like to thank the posters on that thread.
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Old 03-26-2003, 02:48 AM
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grandfather clause

couldnt it also be true that the preference given towards legacies prevents more minorities from joining hisorically white sororities? I rushed this past fall and an extra 120 girls showed up becuase of the popularity of MTV's Sorority Life. I, as a black rushee, was only leftwith, at the end of the next to last round, with 2 out of the 14 sororities, none of which I had shown an interest in. Yet, at most every house, I was able to develop what I thought was a great rapport. I went to a very diverse background and, though, proud of my heritage, am also proud of the fact that I have alwys been able to fit into most any group because I have things in common with people from all backgrounds. I come from an upper middle class background and the majority of students at my university do as well. Yet, my concern is that perhaps when they had an influx of legacies, who, will, most usually, be white, they would always have been given preference over me which makes me feel a bit slighted because none of my family members would have been welcomed into their organizations thirty years ago and ,thus, how would a minority ever be a legacy in this current college generation?!?! So, unless they were struggling for members(which the two I was left with were, how would I ever be chosen to these organizations when there is almost a 0% percent chance that someone in my position would have legacy standing?!?! Do you kind of understand what I mean? This is just something that I've been thinking about...maybe I'm totally off the mark, but it sure has had me thinking these past few months.
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Old 03-26-2003, 10:12 PM
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Re: grandfather clause

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So, unless they were struggling for members(which the two I was left with were, how would I ever be chosen to these organizations when there is almost a 0% percent chance that someone in my position would have legacy standing?!?! Do you kind of understand what I mean? This is just something that I've been thinking about...maybe I'm totally off the mark, but it sure has had me thinking these past few months.
Well, I think it depends. I don't know enough about NPC rush policies or individual organizational policies to know for sure, but:

I assume that each organization has a different type of legacy clause. Some may go by percentages, some may have to take all qualified legacies who apply, some may give preferential treatment but are not obligated to offer a bid, while other groups may not have to accept or do anything special for legacies at all.

As such, there were probably "some" houses that couldn't take all the non-legacies they may have wanted because of legacy clauses, but for certain each and every house on that campus had some segment "non-legacies" offered a bid, right?

Maybe it had to do with race, or legacy, but maybe not. From all I understand, NPC formal rush requires that members make very quick judgement calls about PNMs, which means that some folks are just going to slip through the cracks, no matter how outstanding they might be. One of the differences between NPC formal rush and NPHC "rush" is that we typically take a semester or a year to observe a "PNM" so that we can better identify whether they would be a good fit with the organization (I think closer to NPC informal rush). Even then, folks still slip through cracks in a NPHC rush. Maybe, based on your comments an NPC informal rush, where one could liaison with a chapter on a one-to-many basis, would be a better fit for people of color looking to join an NPC group?

I firmly believe though, that if a chapter wants to extend bids to non-legacy folks (to increase chapter diversity or whatever), they'll probably find a way to do it, legacy clause or no.
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