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				12-29-2002, 11:14 PM
			
			
			
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			I've always been a very optimistic, trusting person...  I really have faith in the goodness of people until they mess up.
 However, I'm beginning to wonder -- is there really such thing as a truly good guy?  Or are all males born to be somewhat unreliable and untrustworthy?
 
 Sorry... it's been a rough week.
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			I think there are pretty equal amounts of unreliability and untrustworthyness (new word?) spread about both sexes.
 I am pretty sure your will stir up the guys on GC with this one. They will come storming in with their torches and pitchforks and carry banners that read "Girls suck too!"
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		| Originally posted by librasoul22 "Girls suck too!"
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			Libra thank you for what you a said about guys! Some Good Some Bad! 
Yes, I am one of the Good Guys!  At least Try to Be!
 
Do I fool around, NO! Do I have someone, NO!
 
Why, I am to damn old to mess around with a 20-30 year old person. But one never know what is old!!!!!     
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			Yes, I believe there ARE truly good guys out there. The problem is, you find the one good guy, the one guy in the WHOLE WORLD that you would give up anything just to have a chance with him, one of the following happens: 
1)you find out he's gay. (it's happened to me more than once, actually)
 
2)you find out he has a girlfriend. (happened MANY times to me)
 
3)he's so good that EVERYONE loves him, so why would you have a chance with him? That's my current situation. I've fallen hopelessly for this guy who is one of my best friends, and I don't think he has any clue. It's so pathetic...I'd do anything for him. He wanted me to help him with a project, so I stayed up all night(literally) helping him with it. He needed someone to help him study, so I quizzed him on his study guide for a few hours. He's having problems with a friend, so I sit in his room, quietly listening to his problems and giving advice when necessary. It's so pathetic, because I neglect things that don't need neglecting just to spend time with this guy...and I just feel like he's too good for me. 
 
Sorry for that rambling mess, guys. Guess I'm frustrated too.
 
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		| Originally posted by librasoul22 I am pretty sure your will stir up the guys on GC with this one. They will come storming in with their torches and pitchforks and carry banners that read "Girls suck too!"
 |  no dude, girls are cool - i'm a fan
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			[hijack thread] 
Just seduce the boy already. Most of the guys on here will tell you that words just confuse us. Action. 
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		| Originally posted by sairose Yes, I believe there ARE truly good guys out there. The problem is, you find the one good guy, the one guy in the WHOLE WORLD that you would give up anything just to have a chance with him, one of the following happens:
 
 1)you find out he's gay. (it's happened to me more than once, actually)
 
 2)you find out he has a girlfriend. (happened MANY times to me)
 
 3)he's so good that EVERYONE loves him, so why would you have a chance with him? That's my current situation. I've fallen hopelessly for this guy who is one of my best friends, and I don't think he has any clue. It's so pathetic...I'd do anything for him. He wanted me to help him with a project, so I stayed up all night(literally) helping him with it. He needed someone to help him study, so I quizzed him on his study guide for a few hours. He's having problems with a friend, so I sit in his room, quietly listening to his problems and giving advice when necessary. It's so pathetic, because I neglect things that don't need neglecting just to spend time with this guy...and I just feel like he's too good for me.
 
 Sorry for that rambling mess, guys. Guess I'm frustrated too.
 
 And yes, girls can be pretty stupid sometimes too.  I try to be fair.
  
 
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			See, SAIRose, I don't have those problems.  They have never turned out to be gay...  And, if they have a girlfriend, whatever...  I can find another guy.  And if they are so great that everyone loves them, well, I usually win!
 My problem is that they start out good, and then I find out what they are really like.  But, it's too late because I already care...
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		| Originally posted by sororitygirl2 See, SAIRose, I don't have those problems.  They have never turned out to be gay...  And, if they have a girlfriend, whatever...  I can find another guy.  And if they are so great that everyone loves them, well, I usually win!
 
 My problem is that they start out good, and then I find out what they are really like.  But, it's too late because I already care...
 |  Yeah, I've had that happen too. *hug*    Can I ask what happened? You can reply here or PM me if you wish.
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			I think all males are born with the CALPABILITY to become nice, trustworthy, lovable, adorable, and/or reliable people.  Most just choose to run as far from that as possible.  I don't mean this in a derogatory way, I'm merely trying to state a fact    |  
	
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			People of the human race can't be trusted period. Not just men.
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			Guys are the devil!!!!
 I thought it would get easier when we got older (you know, when guys are supposed to mature)...but my friend's older sister is 31 and she says it just gets harder!
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				Here's my problem...
			 
 
			
			You know how guys always bitch about how girls always go for the assholes and the good guys are "just the friend?" Well, I've had really strong feelings for the "good guy friend" for several years, but I don't know how to tell him because I'm afraid that he doesn't feel the same way! And if he doesn't feel the same way, i don't want to screw up an almost best-friend-ship of 6 years! Any advice as to how I might go about telling him? I have suspicions that he might feel the same way, but you can never be sure, you know?
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			Yes, there's such a thing as a good guy -- I know: I married one.  However, everyone's opinion of what makes a "good guy" differs, so I won't go into detail about what characteristics you should look for.  I will say that what helped me was to sit down one night and really think about what I wanted from a partner, and what I had to offer a partner. I was really clear about the things I would and wouldn't tolerate, and I wrote them down clearly in my journal.  Four months after I did that, a guy walked into my life who became my husband 18 months later.
		 
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		| Originally posted by Dionysus People of the human race can't be trusted period. Not just men.
 |  Dude I hate to sound like a really negative person but hon, I totally agree with you.  I've been screwed over time and time again by guys AND girls.....I don't trust anyone.  Maybe not the most enjoyable way to live, but it works for me.  I've gone through a lot of hell to realize that the only person I can ever really really trust is myself....sad, but true for me.  Oh well.  
 
As for my current guy situation....    that's all I have to say.
 
My "friend" Josh IM'd me earlier and said something along the lines of how I should quit feeling sorry for myself and my problems aren't really problems BLAH BLAH BLAH and he's like take this as good advice b/c I'm happily in love with Erin (his g/f)  So I told him I don't need his kind of advice when all it does is make me feel even worse and friends shouldn't be like that.  Then he told me to stop craving attention and that he was going to stop paying attention to me b/c our friendship wasn't worth that much anyway.     
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