Drug Arrests!!!!

UF_PikePC98 · #1 10-23-2002, 11:33 PM

I can't stand this crapp!!!!

This is the second time in 3 years that buddies of mine got busted in Gainesville by another one of our friends who was stupid and got caught......then turned rat......

All I gotta say is "his" a$$ better not go to Miami....He can't hide in this state.

He's, the rat, now brought heat to the Sig Ep house because of this!

Below is the latest bust of some buddies......The next is the bust of 5 of my very close friends 3 years ago.....

http://gainesvillesun.com/apps/pbcs....0180360&Ref=AR

From article 6 on are all about my friends. You can click each individual article and then find more articles in sub-categories.

I'm posting this so that some of you who know people selling drugs, can show them that our kind of people DO GET CAUGHT! Another bad thing is that "other" things come to light once you get busted.

One of my best friends....Juan Carlos Asse "Carly" is the one who got 7 years in prison. The rest got lighter sentences.

Here are the links....

#6
Alleged ecstasy ring members are sent back to jail for numerous rape charges

#7
m.asse gets probation for lying to grand jury in drug case against his brother
asse, marcos afi

#8
I-75 traffic stop yields $500,000 in ecstasy and cocaine
torres, albert

#9
b.worthington sentenced to 4 years for role in ecstasy ring (picture)
worthington, brent

#10
j.asse sentenced to 7 years for ecstasy distribution (picture)
asse, juan carlos "carly"

#11
j.lumley-anthony, o.khan sentenced to prison terms for ecstasy distribution (picture)
lumley-anthony, jason

#12
b.boate gets 2 years, b.ray gets probation in ecstasy ring case (picture)
boate, brent

#13
4 plead guilty to ecstasy distribution (picture)
asse, juan carlos "carly"

#14
b.ray pleads guilty to ecstasy distribution charge; d.pacheco pleads not guilty (picture)
ray, bernadette alexandra

#15
o.khan, d.pacheco indicted in connection with ecstasy ring
khan, omar saeed

#16
b.boate pleads guilty to ecstasy distribution charge (picture)
boate, brent michel

#17
undercover drug operation nets 7 arrests in and around cedar key
cedar key

#18
5 members of alleged ecstasy ring arrested (picture)
asse, juan carlos "carly"

guardian_angel! · #2 10-23-2002, 11:48 PM

Drug arrest are good. Its gets the bad people off the street. Put all the drugies and dealers in jail and the world would be a better place.

valkyrie · #3 10-23-2002, 11:56 PM

Guardian angel, I disagree. I don't think that people doing (or selling) drugs are bad. Prosecuting and imprisoning drug users and dealers is a complete waste of time and money. If the state wasn't wasting so much time putting a recreational pot user in jail, they would have more time and energy to spend prosecuting people who *are* a danger to society like rapists and people running guns. As a criminal defense attorney, most of my clients on any given day are in on drug charges. They are not bad or dangerous people.

IMHO, drugs should be legalized -- and when I say drugs, I mean all of them. It should be a matter of personal choice, just like drinking. Additionally, I think that there would be a HUGE reduction in crime if you could go down to Osco to buy some E or crack or whatever you wanted. There would be no money in it for the street dealers, and the government could tax it. We could still have laws like with alcohol making it a crime to drive under the influence.

Of course, in our uptight society, this will never happen.

guardian_angel! · #4 10-24-2002, 12:11 AM

Do you take drugs or ever tried them? If yes of course you want it legalized and do not think drugs are bad. If you don't and never have tried them I can respect your opinion.

Kevin · #5 10-24-2002, 12:12 AM

Law enforcement is fighting a war that it cannot win. While I personally would never touch the stuff I don't really have a problem with those that do. I however DO have a problem with something like marijuana being illegal where alcohol according to johnny law is just fine. The legal one is addictive as hell (and I've seen it take lives away) it's not even possible to OD smoking marijuana (you'd die of smoke inhalation first).

They cite bogus statistics like X amount of people go to rehab every year for marijuana... sure if you have the choice of going to jail or going to rehab... what's it going to be?

alphachiohmy · #6 10-24-2002, 01:42 AM

Go to www.dailyherald.com and check out stories on the "Heroin and Club Drugs in the Suburbs" link. It should be on the right side of the page. There are tons of stories there about teens from all walks of life and the effects drugs have had on their life.

Then tell me drugs should be legalized. Just my opinion.

Kevin · #7 10-24-2002, 02:01 AM

This simply proves the fact that no matter what amount is spent on law enforcement, it won't work. All law enforcement does is further complicate the lives of people who are either using the stuff recreationally and really don't suffer much from it if any or complicating the already tough lives of addicts.

They would be addicted whether or not the stuff was legal because they have access to it either way. These kids hardships occured through their own stupid choices. It would be the same if they were alcoholics... Just legal once they were 21.

alphachiohmy · #8 10-24-2002, 02:15 AM

I am not saying that law enforcement is perfect; its not. There are flaws in the system. But the idea of legalizing every drug is scary. I know I would not want people in my community able to get high of meth whenever they wanted too.

And it is not just these "stupid kids" that suffer. In these stories, anyone can see how drugs affect families, communities etc. There are too many drugs out there that completely impair people beyond the simple high of dope. The choices they made were simply to use drugs.

And drugs have a completely different hold on people than alcohol. The two are apples and oranges; you can't compare them.

KSig RC · #9 10-24-2002, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by alphachiohmy
I am not saying that law enforcement is perfect; its not. There are flaws in the system. But the idea of legalizing every drug is scary. I know I would not want people in my community able to get high of meth whenever they wanted too.

But honestly, isn't that essentially the system we work under now, as far as "whenever they wanted too (sic)"?

Quote:

Originally posted by alphachiohmy
And it is not just these "stupid kids" that suffer. In these stories, anyone can see how drugs affect families, communities etc. There are too many drugs out there that completely impair people beyond the simple high of dope. The choices they made were simply to use drugs.

OK - but as stated above, law enforcement is weak in this area. If people already make this choice, as you posit, why not have the choice made in the sterility and control of a government operation?
When was the last time you saw black-market cigarettes?

The bottom line is, this happens anyway, so why not MAKE money off of it, rather than SPENDING money in a vain effort to make you, your mom, my grandmother, and joe saturday feel like 'drugs is bad, we doin sometin bout it'?

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Originally posted by alphachiohmy
And drugs have a completely different hold on people than alcohol. The two are apples and oranges; you can't compare them.

Why not?

Alcohol is just as addictive as many drugs, you can die of overdose, its effects are scary and can include violence, impaired judgement, and overestimation of abilities to perform critical functions (think driving) - and, in fact, alcohol IS A DRUG, by DEFINITION.

Where do you draw the line? Is ephedrine a 'drug'? Is pot a drug? How about morphine?

The positives outweigh the negatives, and that's without relying on any sort of "take away the mystique and the black market, take away the urge to do it" appeal to anonymous authority . . .

librasoul22 · #10 10-24-2002, 11:52 AM

I agree with valkyrie (there you go again, reading my mind), ktsnake and KSig.

Whether they are legal or not, people are going to do drugs. They are always gonna find a way to get it. And I think that drugs CAN be compared to alcohol. Why on earth not? It is the same thing!

I have issues with drug laws on MANY levels. They are differentially reinforced, for one, which leads me to my next thought....UF, what did you mean by this:

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I'm posting this so that some of you who know people selling drugs, can show them that our kind of people DO GET CAUGHT!

@guardian angel...what is your point, exactly?

xok85xo · #11 10-24-2002, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by guardian_angel!
Do you take drugs or ever tried them? If yes of course you want it legalized and do not think drugs are bad. If you don't and never have tried them I can respect your opinion.

i don't see your logic..wouldn't someone who has taken drugs be able to make a more educated/informed opinion than someone whose only experience/opinion is formed from what is portrayed in the media?

mrblonde · #12 10-24-2002, 12:51 PM

I have to disagree with most of the above. I personally feel the 'marijuana vs. alcohol' argument is akin to saying, 'Well, its legal to drive holding a cell phone(at least in my state still), cigarette, and Big Mac, but I cant drive with my eyes closed? Not fair!' If marijuana, hypothetically, is responsible for 5% of the automobile accidents that alcohol is involved in, why would you want to compound those figures? Why would you add to those totals? Even so, the only real problem with marijuana that I have is that there is yet an immediate test for it. When someone is too drunk to operate a taxi, airplane, or other heavy machinery, its usually pretty obvious before they get behind the controls. Being high is often much easier to conceal. I know this because I was actually in a car struck by a motorist who passed an alcohol test but it wasnt until two weeks later that the police officially determined he was driving while cannabis-impaired. (no one was hurt)

The argument has been made that it is a personal choice. I dont believe any substance which puts you in an altered state of mind and in less than 100% control of yourself at all times affects just you. Whether it is driving a car, taking care of smalll children, or even sitting next to someone, you are free to live your life how you want, until the very moment you threaten someone else's well being. Some of these substances are legal, some are not. If we cannot trust ourselves with alcohol, why would we throw more fuel on the fire? This is not to say that there arent people who consume both alcohol and marijuana responsibly, but there are also those that do not. And sometimes, too many times, it can hurt, and even kill people. People affected by a 'personal choice' that another person made.

Optimist Prime · #13 10-24-2002, 01:03 PM

Mrblonde,
do you think alcohol should be outlawed? Also, you tend to drive pretty slow when your stoned.

sororitygirl2 · #14 10-24-2002, 01:21 PM

I'm sort of in favor of legalizing drugs too... I waver a lot, but it seems like it would be a good idea.

It would definitely save a lot of tax payer money by reducing the amount of people in jail.

James · #15 10-24-2002, 01:34 PM

You can't legalize drugs. You just can't!

Drug enforcement has become big money for law enforcement, enforced rehab clinics, prisons, and even the underground economy.

Think: If you legalized drugs the economic costs would be enormous!

Most of the justification for police budgets are drugs now. I think something like 60 percent of incarceration is for drug related offenses. There are huge blocks of money going for drug enforcement. Its insane.

Are you going to put all those people out of work???

IT would be wrong to do that.