Joining a sorority and then transferring

UNFSigmaChi · #1 07-25-2002, 12:20 AM

Ok one thing that I hate is when girls(and sometimes this happens in fraternities too) rush a sorority just to get initiated and then transfer to a much larger school to affiliate with the chapter there because they know they wouldn't get a bid at the larger school. Why on earth would the person do this and why would the sorority allow them to pledge if they know its going to happen. This past fall a girl rushed Delta Gamma and got a bid, went through her new membership and got initiated. Well, everyone knew she was transferring to UF this fall but allowed her to become a sister anyways. Well DG here isn't the best sorority on campus as far as good looking girls, but at UF....DAMN! And she even admitted to joining DG at UNF just to affiliate with the "hot girl" sorority at UF. Why would a sorority allow this girl to become a sister if they knew this, and second, why would you want to affiliate with a sorority that when they obviously see you come fall, know that you won't fit in because your not in the "in" crowd. Are girls doing this, just that naive or what????? Help me out sorority girls!!!! :-)

#2 07-25-2002, 01:05 AM

This is my first time hearing something like this. I hope its rare.

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Why would a sorority allow this girl to become a sister if they knew this?

I have no clue about this one. It's possible that they thought this girl would come around and perhaps can her mind about transfering once initiated. Maybe they thought this was just a rumor going around. Personally, I wouldn't want this person in my house if she was just joining so she could transfer to a larger chapter cuz they are hotter. That's shallow and low. There's a thread in the Rush forum about Blackballing. I've never done it, but if this situation came up...she'd be a goner.

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why would you want to affiliate with a sorority that when they obviously see you come fall, know that you won't fit in because your not in the "in" crowd.

Like I said... she's shallow (If what is being said is true). And in her mind she thinks that she does fit in with the DG's at UF. The otherside of that is, even though she knows she might not fit in, it is going to be hard for DG to not let her affiliate since she is already an initiated member. She's to a certain extent guaranteed herself a spot in the UF house by doing this.
If the girls at UF know about her reasons for affilating with them, they are stuck bewteen a rock and a hard place. I think its easier said than done to deny her affiliation. Not unless the UNF chapter brings some unsisterly like action against her on those ground and says to the UF chapter not to let her in and blackball her out of DG period. But that would be hard and maybe pointless.

In the end, if this gets back to the UF sisters and all the UNF sisters know, chick is gonna fall flat on her face....hard.

twigs344 · #3 07-25-2002, 01:09 AM

Well, seeing as how I am a DG here at UNF I guess I should reply. First of all I have no clue who you are talking about. I can't think of any girl who is transfering to UF this fall, from our chapter. Second of all, when a girl goes through recruitment, she generally doesn't announce that she will be transferring the following year. So we don't "allow" girls to pledge who we know to be transferring. And, you should know by now that UNF has a reputation as being a school that people go to for a year or two and then transfer. So its not like this is some random thing. People transfer all the time. And finally, I take insult to the way you reference DG on this message board. I feel I'm a good looking lady, and that we have MANY good looking ladies in our chapter. ALL the Delta Gammas I know are Beautiful women.

CarolinaDG · #4 07-25-2002, 01:09 AM

Yeah, I'm transferring to UF, too...
Just kidding. But after everything I've heard about them, we may just have to post pictures of them around the room during recruitment.

The thing is, girls don't care whether or not they will "fit in" but they care about the letters that they can wear around campus. It's why big sororities everywhere get whatever girls they want. If the letters look good, who cares what I do with the sorority?

You know, when I went DG, I was a sophomore, so I knew ALL the reputations of the sororities on campus. I had my heart set on tri-delt. It has one of the best reputations on campus. But, when I got into the room, I just didn't fit in. Period. That sorority's for a type of girls that I'm not. But when I walked into the DG room, I knew that's what was right. And even though I felt comfortable in other rooms, too, DG had the best reputation of the sororities I felt comfortable in... so I went that way. Sad, but true.

And I do admit I get a little thrill when I hear about UF or USoCal chapters, and how gorgeous their girls are... I mean, they're my sisters, too! And, let's face it, if I had realized what the reputation of DG was nationally (VERY strong) then I wouldn't have given a lot of other sororities a second thought.

Also, I've never heard of a girl re-affiliating with another school JUST so she can be in the "hot girl" sorority. Maybe she just happens to be transferring, I don't know. And anyway, from what I've heard about ALL the Florida chapters, they're very good chapters.

twigs344 · #5 07-25-2002, 01:14 AM

Just because someone were to transfer to UF DOES NOT mean she would get to affiliate as a collegiate with that chapter. For the most part, as far as I know, UF does not accept transfer girls to become active house members. They are Always at total there, so it would not be allowed. The girl would more than likely have to go alum.

sororitygirl2 · #6 07-25-2002, 01:26 AM

I have heard of this happening at a lot of schools... most of the girls I know of who did it were from the South and went to schools in the West (with much smaller Greek systems than many Southern schools) for their freshman year, or just first semester. They later went back to Ole' Miss or UGA, <insert any other school with a great Greek system here>, to affiliate with the chapter they wanted to be in all along.

I guess I don't have a real point here, except to let you know that, coming from a smaller Greek system, it is not urban legend... girls do this WAY more than you think!

P.S. A side note, too bad for those girls though... that, in many orgs. I know of anyway, you have to have a unanimous vote of the chapter you are affiliating with to join... sometimes can be hard to get.

ROWDYsister · #7 07-25-2002, 01:31 AM

We had a sister from another school transfer to UF this past spring. Before she could affiliate with our chapter we had to have a chapter vote. In her case it was just a formality because she seems really nice and there weren't any problems, but if the chapter had problems with her, suspected she had bad motives for transferring or such then she's not automatically in. I'd assume other houses have similar say in who affiliates in.

justamom · #8 07-25-2002, 08:04 AM

There was discussion on this a while ago and it went about the same way. Some had never heard of it happeing others were aware of the situation.

Yep, it happens and usually is from a smaller Greek system to a competative one.
SORORITYGIRL2 I have heard of this happening at a lot of schools... most of the girls I know of who did it were from the South and went to schools in the West (with much smaller Greek systems than many Southern schools) for their freshman year, or just first semester. They later went back to Ole' Miss or UGA, <insert any other school with a great Greek system here>, to affiliate with the chapter they wanted to be in all along.

We, AXO, had very few transferes in or out, but it was true for one sorority at U of H in particular. They seemed to have a higher number of girls transfer out than the others. Were did they go? Exactly where sororitygirl2 said!

Carolina DG-The thing is, girls don't care whether or not they will "fit in" but they care about the letters that they can wear around campus. I only knew of one exception, she was from Hubby's hometown and planned on going to LSU. She loved her sisters so much she stayed.

carnation · #9 07-25-2002, 09:28 AM

I wish I knew where that thread on "purposely pledging a competitive group at a smaller college, then transferring to a bigger school" was. Didn't KillarneyRose start it?

But yes, it's done a lot in the South and it often backfires. Sometimes the new chapter doesn't want the girl. Other times they're open to it but chapter total rules don't allow them to affiliate her. Big Greek campuses here have to impose a rule like that or some chapters would advise all these girls to pledge at smaller colleges, then come to them--and they'd have 300 members.

UNFSigmaChi · #10 07-25-2002, 09:45 AM

Hey twigs. The girl that is leaving is one of your few girls that got initiated and kinda never hung out again..maybe that will help you know who im talking about. I've been around since you girls were called SIG's and *** was your founding president. And you weren't around back in the day like i was and you had some really bad girls as far as looks, but i will say this. DG at UNF from what i've seen has the best sisterhood. And after seeing your last fall rush you girls are getting a more diversified group of girls. I give you girls another couple of years to be super competitive with AXO and ZTA. Gamma Eta is coming to campus as well which i think is cool. And just to give you some inside stuff...there are two sophomore girls that are purposly rushing you in the fall to transfer to FSU to affiliate with the DG chapter there. I think it will be obvious to find out who they are now that you know of it. But i think its very wrong to not allow a brother/sister from another chapter to affiliate with you unless they had some problems with their previous chapter. If they have a good record with their old chapter, can pay dues, and wanna participate they should be allowed to affiliate without a vote.
Anyways twigs...hoped the info helped

AOX81 · #11 07-25-2002, 10:53 AM

When I went to school there was a girl who joined Delta Phi Epsilon because she knew she would eventually be transferring to another college which also had a D Phi E chapter. Her and one of her friends wanted to pledge at the same time and then when she transferred they would be in the same chapter. We knew about it, they knew about it, it was no big deal.

notorious4it · #12 07-25-2002, 11:05 AM

Why does it matter where she wants to be a soror as long as she wants to be your soror. I may be wrong but as long as she fulfills her duties does it matter where she does it. But thats just my opinion

APhi · #13 07-25-2002, 11:16 AM

Like everyone else said, the DG's at UF don't have to take her and most likely won't. Especially if one of them were to see this thread.... Which is a very real possibility.
I also wanted to say that one of the most wonderful things about all of our GLO's is that they are a national sisterhood. While I was active we accepted transfers from Iowa, Texas Tech, Mizzou and Oregon State and sent girls to our chapters at Michigan, Oregon and SDSU (different girl - this one was a great sister.) When someone makes a decision to transfer for academic or personal reasons I think it's great that they have the option of meeting their sisters on their new campus and therefore getting to know 100+ people right off the bat. Perks like that are one of the many good reasons to join a GLO. Don't you hate it when people abuse the system?

UNFSigmaChi · #14 07-25-2002, 11:31 AM

notorius i see your point, but me personally I would feel used that a person used your chapter to get initiated to belong to another chapter. To me thats wrong. Me being a pledge educator i wouldn't be happy I wasted my time trying to teach someone what true brotherhood is and then find out they used me to get initiated to join a larger chapter. I feel that when you allow someone to pledge your GLO that you are raising new people to take your chapter to a new level and creating long lasting bonds of friendship with them...not to get them initiated so they can leave you behind. Thats my thoughts on it.

aw19 · #15 07-25-2002, 12:21 PM

UNFSigmaChi:
It is really easy to be annonymous and sit at a computer and say whatever you want, but you should practice a little self control. Personally, I think it is REALLY rude that you would say some of the things about this DG chapter. I don't know the situation first hand but I think you are overstepping your boundaries by pretending to know the internal happenings of these two chapters. Also, just because you knew someone 3 years ago doesn't mean you know what is going on. And if you really are that close with the DGs you wouldn't be talking shit about them here.
Way to go to the DG from UF who stepped up and gave SX a piece of your mind. I know that my chapter has been talked about on this board and I just sort of sat back and didn't say anything. Sometimes it isn't worth replying, but I think this is a pretty big deal and quite possibly a rumor. So, good job on speaking your mind. The lesson that should be learned here is:

1. Rumors are rumors, don't slander, who does it help?
2. Remember, just b/c people don't post or say much, they are here and do read these boards.
3. Yes, you are somewhat anonymous, but don't be an ass and diss people

Thanks for reading,
aw