Birth or Process my fellow greeks...

Happydaysf91 · #1 03-22-2002, 02:15 PM

Greeting my fellow Greeks....I came up with this question when visiting our Greeksister's room (DST)....

Do you think a person is 'born' XYZ or its their 'process' makes the person 'XYZ'?

What I mean by born....is that something in that person makes him/her want to be committed to an organization that they choose to serve. If they fall by the wayside, something in them always brings them back to the fold. The 'process' that they went through has nothing to do with it.... They are fully committed individuals regardless....

Process...the steps they went through made them committed to the organization. The person was 'made' XYZ. If they didn't go through this, they would have fallen by the wayside and not have been 'active'.....If they do fall by the wayside, its the memory of the process that pulls them back in....

jali0004 · #2 03-22-2002, 03:21 PM

Soror Happydaysf91,

Is one better than the other??

Personally I know some Greeks that fall into either category, so is there one you think is better than the other? Does one's personality make them "born" XYZ?

When I read this, I thought about someone being "born" XYZ is one that has a great love, respect and admiration for an organization, before they cross. They do not need to wear paraphernalia, or broadcast to the world that they are XYZ...you just know when you see them in the community, in their everyday lives...and then when you find out they are XYZ, that just adds to their charm.

Not knocking "process" people, but when I think about a person being "made" XYZ, they have become the model member after having inside knowledge (crossing), and that makes them love and admire their organization. They think about the selectivity of their organization, and that they made the cut, and that there are many people in this world, in their circle, that would like to have membership as well. So they need to think about why they joined consistently in order to understand their love for the organization, and remain active...

Of course, these ramblings are just thoughts about the issue, and I'm not judging which is good or bad. And we have to account for the gray are: people cannot be lumped together into a classification as subjective as this, and there may be times when we feel one way or the other...

What do you think about this Happydaysf91??

JJSP01 · #3 03-22-2002, 03:48 PM

I don't think your pledge process makes you an XYZ...for me, I think Deltas are born and not made. You either have it or you don't. If you have the character, etc. that meets the criteria for becoming a Delta, then you "are" a Delta, even it you don't pledge. The pledge process gives you the knowledge you need and the right (after you cross) to actually say you are a Delta.

Just my opinion...

Happydaysf91 · #4 03-22-2002, 05:23 PM

I have to agree with my Greek sister....I really don't think the process is the sole reason for someone's committment. I think that these individuals are 'born'.

I guess my question was dealing with the great debate that has been lingering for the last 12 years in BGLO. (My fellow greeks know what I'm talking about). The people that are 'born' XYZ....will alway stay committed. The steps taken to get there...gives you many precious memories (I know that there are ones I won't forget) and it builds a bond between you and your line sisters (but this is not always the case -- I can speak for sororities only).

So in sum...As long as you are committed and financial..you are alright with me. (Before some smarty pants tries to misconstrue my words....if you are not financial you are alright as well, just don't try to impress me with how long you were on-line and what you had to do...Although I do admire your tenancity and strength .....what have you done lately?) Just my .08 cent!

I think BeeJae and Ladygreek said it best on Delta Avenue!

AKA2D '91 · #5 03-22-2002, 05:44 PM

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Originally posted by Happydaysf91
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The people that are 'born' XYZ....will always stay committed. The steps taken to get there...gives you many precious memories (I know their ones I won't forget) and it builds a bond between you and your line sisters (but this is not always the case -- I can speak for sororities only).

So in sum...As long as you are committed and financial..you are alright with me.

Amen!

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don't try to impress me with how long you were on-line and what you had to do...Although I do admire your tenancity and strength back then...what have you done lately?)

yet, I understand!

Knowledge1922 · #6 03-22-2002, 07:00 PM

Sigma Women are made. This goes beyond and is deeper than any intake process. Sigmahood is an ongoing journey. I whole heartedly believe that the REAL pledging begins once one has entered the sisterhood.

I liken the concept of being made, to that of being a Christian. We are not born as Christians. It is something we learn and grow as a journey.

And though we often say , I was made or so and so brought me, i believe those are just the foundations of what and who we will become in the organization.

I mean, it doesn't matter how much I knew or what I loved about my illustrious organization prior to become a Soror. I didn't BECOME it until I actually learned and earned those rights...and continue to do and grow as a SIGMA WOMAN!

Please note this is from a Sigma Gamma Rho perspective.

SeriousAKA · #7 03-26-2002, 11:34 AM

During an intake process, a soror who was brought in through the graduate chapter responded to a question from a candidate about some, what I would call important, information. This soror's response was, that's not important, I don't even know that.. Imagine my shock because I knew it and believed it to be something ALL should know. My thought is this, by being born or made or however you term it, shouldn't your growth come in knowing all that you can about our organization? In order to be productive, shouldn't we actively seek out what we don't know? Does being financial and active but still being ignorant excuse you? Just curious!!

Happydaysf91 · #8 03-26-2002, 12:20 PM

I pm'ed you

LikeASista · #9 07-10-2007, 11:04 PM

This is a tough topic for me. I think it depends on the individual. For my sorority, some would say they were 'born' into it as they immediately took on the characteristics and traits of the general attitudes and personality of the organization once crossed. But others may not adopt the personality of the sorority, but may feel a wonderful connection to just the experience of going through intake, thus labeling themselves 'made'.