Unruly President? Please Help!!

heyitsjennay · #1 04-05-2013, 02:37 PM

Hello All!
I would really like some advice on a situation that has come up in my sorority.

There are a couple problems. First off our president goes out and gets completely wasted all the time proudly broadcasting that fact to Facebook, Twitter and anyone else who will listen which isn't the best publicity for us, second of all she is very close friends with VP and most of the upper exec. Obviously we all go out, everyone has been drunk but where it really concerns me is that in case of a situation the pres and vp won't be able to be contacted or will be too intoxicated to do anything. I only worry because bad situations have happened in the past with girls being taken to the hospital. I think our president just does not take responsibility for any of our girls and appears intimidating to some new members.

A few other girls and myself were advised to take her to standards by the alum board but I'm worried about the repercussions..I am also on upper exec and if you aren't on her good side then I don't know what will happen.

What is your input on this?
Also, our standards is hardly used and it is truly seen as a punishment...maybe 3 girls go each semester.

Thanks for the help and sorry about the long post!!

adpiucf · #2 04-05-2013, 02:40 PM

You absolutely need to follow the advice of the alumnae and call them to standards. Standards is there for this very reason. This is a risk management issue and the best way to handle it.

AOII Angel · #3 04-05-2013, 02:48 PM

Agreed. This is detrimental to the chapter. Sounds like your chapter decided to elect the party crew to power. I assume your organization has rules regarding social media presence, officer intoxication at events, etc. As the official face of your chapter, the president should be above reproach. Having a good time is one thing, but making a name for herself in a bad way on social media, and not being available as an officer because she is drunk at events isn't acceptable. If she wants to party that hard, then she doesn't really want to be president. The two are mutually exclusive. I'd follow the advice of you alumnae.

MaggieXi · #4 04-05-2013, 02:57 PM

Is the president/party crew exec in their positions until the school year ends or are they elected for fall semester as well?

heyitsjennay · #5 04-05-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MaggieXi

Is the president/party crew exec in their positions until the school year ends or are they elected for fall semester as well?

Yes, they're elected fall semester as well.

DeltaBetaBaby · #6 04-05-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

not being available as an officer because she is drunk at events isn't acceptable.

Well, it depends. My chapter rotated the responsibility of being the sober officers. When it comes to dealing with emergency issues, you really need SOBER officers, not just "had a drink or two but not wasted" officers.

FSUZeta · #7 04-05-2013, 04:57 PM

It's always scary to take people to standards, but if there was ever a case where it should be done, this sounds like that case.Your alumnae advisory board is trying to get you(and the chapter) to follow protocol. They most likely cannot do anything until the president is taken to your standards board.

You may find the proper procedure in your officer's manual, which might help you decide if you want to take her to standards or not. In other words, if there have to be witnesses to support the accusations that are leveled against the president, then you need to make sure that there are members who would be willing to do so. As you noted previously, if you get on the president's bad side she might make your life miserable. By taking her to standards, with no one to confirm your accusations, then you have basically just hit the wasp nest with a pinata stick.

AOII Angel · #8 04-05-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Well, it depends. My chapter rotated the responsibility of being the sober officers. When it comes to dealing with emergency issues, you really need SOBER officers, not just "had a drink or two but not wasted" officers.

And that needs to be well defined. Sounds like from the OPs post that this has been a problem, and that is the responsibility first and foremost of the president.

33girl · #9 04-06-2013, 06:54 PM

To ask perhaps the most obvious question....why did you elect Lindsay Lohan II as your president in the first place? I seriously doubt that her behavior has only been occurring since she ascended to office.

heyitsjennay · #10 04-07-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

And that needs to be well defined. Sounds like from the OPs post that this has been a problem, and that is the responsibility first and foremost of the president.

you would be correct...we have had problems with that as well...basically no one really takes our risk management seriously and how could they when even the pres breaks the rules?

heyitsjennay · #11 04-07-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

To ask perhaps the most obvious question....why did you elect Lindsay Lohan II as your president in the first place? I seriously doubt that her behavior has only been occurring since she ascended to office.

Lol GOOD question! it's actually a whole other story but basically only 2 girls ran one isn't as personable but more "down to business" and then theres the party-er. Also something got switched up with our initiation dates so the new members got to vote in the election even though typically nm don't vote based on the fact that they really don't know many people after half a semester...

Gamma Xi Phi · #12 04-07-2013, 02:27 PM

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Lol GOOD question! it's actually a whole other story but basically only 2 girls ran one isn't as personable but more "down to business" and then theres the party-er..

This is totes Clare vs Drew in Degrassi!

33girl · #13 04-08-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by heyitsjennay

Lol GOOD question! it's actually a whole other story but basically only 2 girls ran one isn't as personable but more "down to business" and then theres the party-er. Also something got switched up with our initiation dates so the new members got to vote in the election even though typically nm don't vote based on the fact that they really don't know many people after half a semester...

Then you guys have learned a lesson...the best liked person is not always the best president. Sorry, but y'all made your bed, you have to lie in it.

And the initiation dates thing is silly, as they wouldn't "know" the sisters any better just from going through initiation.

angels&angles · #14 04-08-2013, 07:38 PM

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And the initiation dates thing is silly, as they wouldn't "know" the sisters any better just from going through initiation.

I thought her point was that because initiation was early this year the new(est) members got to vote at all, where normally they wouldn't.

33girl · #15 04-08-2013, 07:41 PM

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I thought her point was that because initiation was early this year the new(est) members got to vote at all, where normally they wouldn't.

Oh, that would make more sense. I thought she was saying that the NMs got initiated on the 13th instead of the 20th and so they got to vote in the election on the 15th.

Although I also question if that is really a kosher thing to do - it could be seen as hazing/denying privileges.