new sorority chapter ..question

lindseypaige27 · #1 02-01-2012, 08:54 PM

So I read all the documents on the NPC website about bringing a new chapter and I went to meet with my director of greek life. To prepare for the meeting I made a presentation of why my school needs to expand their Greek program. The director was not only rude but basically kicked me out of his office after five minutes saying no. His reasoning is that a sorority that was kicked off campus is going to be coming back on campus and that you cant have two sororities coming on at the same time. I don't ever recall reading this and have speculations to the validity of his argument. Before I go to the schools president I want to make sure that this is true. Also Im pretty sure expansion needs to be voted on by the schools NPC council. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks guys

WCsweet<3 · #2 02-01-2012, 09:15 PM

Why would you want another sorority colonizing? Have you looked at the one coming onto campus?

Your campus may only need one more sorority. There may not be enough demand for two new ones.

AOII Angel · #3 02-01-2012, 09:37 PM

Unless your campus is very large with a huge need for new sororities, NO, they won't be able to have two groups expand at the same time. Furthermore, you won't be able to get two groups to agree to colonize at the same time. Many times when a chapter is removed from campus for a particular reason, they have a deal with the campus to come back in a few years. This is probably the case with the chapter that is coming back to campus now. You don't have any say in the matter. Trying to add another group right now is futile.

Always AlphaGam · #4 02-01-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lindseypaige27

So I read all the documents on the NPC website about bringing a new chapter and I went to meet with my director of greek life. To prepare for the meeting I made a presentation of why my school needs to expand their Greek program. The director was not only rude but basically kicked me out of his office after five minutes saying no. His reasoning is that a sorority that was kicked off campus is going to be coming back on campus and that you cant have two sororities coming on at the same time. I don't ever recall reading this and have speculations to the validity of his argument. Before I go to the schools president I want to make sure that this is true. Also Im pretty sure expansion needs to be voted on by the schools NPC council. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks guys

Seriously? You're going to the school president? Don't be surprised if s/he tells you to go back to the rude director of Greek Life.

Not only does the school need to be open for expansion, the group you want to bring on campus needs to have a desire to even be there.

Just because you don't recall reading things on the NPC website doesn't mean it's not true. There's a lot of information pertaining to campus expansion/sorority extension that's not readily available for the public to see.

lindseypaige27 · #5 02-01-2012, 10:18 PM

I did look at all of the sororities on my campus and they are all at capacity. And I would not want to pledge the sorority that is coming back on due to the reasons that got them kicked off. I understand that the sorority I want to bring needs to agree first but I wanted to see if I was in the wrong or not.

33girl · #6 02-01-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lindseypaige27

I did look at all of the sororities on my campus and they are all at capacity. And I would not want to pledge the sorority that is coming back on due to the reasons that got them kicked off. I understand that the sorority I want to bring needs to agree first but I wanted to see if I was in the wrong or not.

They're not coming back with the same people - the national organization will be keeping a close eye on the new chapter. If they were just going to bring back a hazing/drinking/drugging/low membership/bad reputation/low on $$ (I'm sure I hit the reason somewhere in there) group, do you honestly think the school would agree to that?

Always AlphaGam · #7 02-01-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lindseypaige27

I did look at all of the sororities on my campus and they are all at capacity. And I would not want to pledge the sorority that is coming back on due to the reasons that got them kicked off. I understand that the sorority I want to bring needs to agree first but I wanted to see if I was in the wrong or not.

If the campus Panhellenic felt it was a good idea to allow the sorority to return to campus, why are you assuming that history will repeat itself?

And FTR, you need an invitation to membership (a bid) in order to pledge a sorority. You can't pledge a sorority if they don't even want you in the first place.

Old_Row · #8 02-01-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lindseypaige27

I did look at all of the sororities on my campus and they are all at capacity. And I would not want to pledge the sorority that is coming back on due to the reasons that got them kicked off. I understand that the sorority I want to bring needs to agree first but I wanted to see if I was in the wrong or not.

You have no way of knowing why the group that is returning is not currently on campus. Obviously your school's administration is happy with whatever recolonization agreement was made.

You sound like someone who is bitter because she didn't get a bid. If that's not the case, go through recruitment during your next formal recruitment. No one will be "at capacity" then.

lindseypaige27 · #9 02-01-2012, 11:15 PM

That is not the case at all I just want to start something new and what I'm trying to bring on I stand completely for, and actually the director of student life of my school verbally told me why they got kicked off.He didn't make it a secret. And I didn't come here to argue with anyone or get called bitter, I just came to ask a question..

knight_shadow · #10 02-01-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lindseypaige27

That is not the case at all I just want to start something new and what I'm trying to bring on I stand completely for, and actually the director of student life of my school verbally told me why they got kicked off.He didn't make it a secret. And I didn't come here to argue with anyone or get called bitter, I just came to ask a question..

Problem #1

The posters are not attacking you. You don't seem to understand how NPC expansion works.

ElieM · #11 02-01-2012, 11:25 PM

There's probably nothing written about only having one sorority at a time colonize, for cases when more than one sorority do want to colonize (I imagine a school which makes its local sororities go national or close).

For your particular school, it sounds like they have a deal with the closed chapter, to allow them to re-open.

lindseypaige27 · #12 02-01-2012, 11:38 PM

I never said the posters are attacking me and yes I am talking in first person, you are correct. However I do have a group of girls with me on this..

Anyways ElieM I appreciate you answering my question, that is a valid point. I (should I bold this or will it just get bolded and a larger font when it's replied to) should look more into that, because the director said he is giving them 3-5 years to come on.

Old_Row · #13 02-01-2012, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lindseypaige27

That is not the case at all I just want to start something new and what I'm trying to bring on I stand completely for, and actually the director of student life of my school verbally told me why they got kicked off.He didn't make it a secret. And I didn't come here to argue with anyone or get called bitter, I just came to ask a question..

Riiiiiiiiiiiight. Because all those other sororities are busy killing puppies and worshiping Satan and no one could stand completely for that.

You have two problems here. Your school is not open to expansion and even if it were, the chances that your magical dream organization would be willing to colonize because you want them to are slim to none. That's not how NPC expansion works.

Old_Row · #14 02-01-2012, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lindseypaige27

I never said the posters are attacking me and yes I am talking in first person, you are correct. However I do have a group of girls with me on this..

Anyways ElieM I appreciate you answering my question, that is a valid point. I (should I bold this or will it just get bolded and a larger font when it's replied to) should look more into that, because the director said he is giving them 3-5 years to come on.

ElieM is not a member of an NPC organization and has no dog in that hunt.

Even if there isn't a rule in the green book or an unanimous agreement, multiple NPC chapters are not going to colonize at the same time unless there is a compelling reason for it. Hint: a girl or two not being happy about the organizations available on her campus is not a compelling reason.

DubaiSis · #15 02-02-2012, 03:47 AM

Point of clarification. Arkansas will likely be bringing on 2 chapters at once. They currently have something like 1500 girls going through rush for 8 chapters. Do you go to Arkansas? Or possibly South Carolina? Then your argument might be valid and you can flounce off in a huff. If you go to a school where there are something like 200 girls going through rush and 4 chapters (with a 5th set to recolonize), you're just being pissy because you didn't get into any of the good houses and don't understand the point of recolonization.

Even IU with all the associated problems and huge numbers of girls going bidless every year is only bringing on one new chapter at a time.

If I were you, I would start doing some research on this sorority that is recolonizing and see if you can't repair your attitude. And then I would spend some quality time with yourself to determine what went wrong during rush. Colonies are not shoo-in options where you get to join just because you want to and any big issues you had before that go unresolved are likely going to continue to bite you in the ass.