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08-26-2010, 09:30 AM
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Ex-GOP Chair Mehlman Says He's Gay
Former Bush campaign chief tells magazine he's gay
Ex-GOP chair says he will advocate for gay marriage, regrets not coming out earlier
Ken Mehlman, President Bush's campaign manager in 2004 and a former chairman of the Republican National Committee, has told family and associates that he is gay, The Atlantic magazine's politics editor reported Wednesday.
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I still don't think people should HAVE to "come out of the closet" (as in, I wish people never had to be IN the closet just as I've never had to "realize" and announce my heterosexuality). And this shouldn't be "news," I guess.
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It's good that he has "come out" now and will advocate gay marriage. I know people who think that certain political parties, religions, and other categorical distinctions (i.e. "masculine men") have less homosexuals than others. No, people just feel that they have to hide their sexual orientation and/or are struggling with their sexual orientation.
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08-26-2010, 09:32 AM
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Is water still wet today??
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08-26-2010, 09:59 AM
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Is that your way of saying that you knew Mehlman was gay and that he was going to formally come out despite people's ignorance?
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08-26-2010, 10:05 AM
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Is that your way of saying that you knew Mehlman was gay and that he was going to formally come out despite people's ignorance?
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Nope...just surprise surprise...yet ANOTHER congressperson 'comes out'.
Not directed at you in particular, just that why is this even news anymore?
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08-26-2010, 10:17 AM
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Just making sure I haven't been drinking the wrong water.
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08-26-2010, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid
Nope...just surprise surprise...yet ANOTHER congressperson 'comes out'.
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That's good that you're applying this to all congresspeople (of which probably 50ish 'should' be gay, depending on which statistics you believe), because it sure seemed you were pointing it at closeted Republicans.
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Not directed at you in particular, just that why is this even news anymore?
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Because there aren't many openly-gay people in high government offices? Because Barney Frank still gets openly mocked? Because states are banning gay marriage? Because ERAs still exclude homosexuality? Etc.
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08-26-2010, 02:04 PM
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That's good that you're applying this to all congresspeople (of which probably 50ish 'should' be gay, depending on which statistics you believe), because it sure seemed you were pointing it at closeted Republicans.
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It's also odd that he's asking why it's news when "yet ANOTHER congressperson comes out," since Ken Mehlman has never been a member of Congress.
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08-26-2010, 02:16 PM
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It's also odd that he's asking why it's news when "yet ANOTHER congressperson comes out," since Ken Mehlman has never been a member of Congress.
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Oh, snap.
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08-26-2010, 02:19 PM
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I knew that if anyone caught it, you would.
And I really do have a list.
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08-26-2010, 06:33 PM
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Hopefully Daemonseid was typing figuratively and knows WHY this is "news."
LOL @ Mehlman being in Congress
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08-27-2010, 12:15 AM
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These days I figure if anyone is a conservative campaigning against Gay Marriage that they're probably closeted.
/sarcasm
But really, it's ceased to surprise me, even if the "coming out" varies from being honest to getting caught with a call-boy.
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08-27-2010, 08:27 AM
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That's good that you're applying this to all congresspeople (of which probably 50ish 'should' be gay, depending on which statistics you believe), because it sure seemed you were pointing it at closeted Republicans.
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Nope not at all. Our congresspeople whichever side of the aisle they are on are getting caught in bathrooms, expensive hookers, drugs, in hotels you name it so again...to ME, this isn't news.
Matter of fact here is an interesting take on how his homosexuality has been an 'open secret' for years and it also tries to differentiate between it being 'a rumor' or 'a suspicion'.
I am saying this to say, I would not be surprised at all if DC has an unwritten policy for 'don't ask, don't tell' among their ranks on the Hill.
Come on now, how many people knew that John Edwards was tipping and was 'shocked' when it came out that he was?
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08-27-2010, 08:39 AM
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Come on now, how many people knew that John Edwards was tipping and was 'shocked' when it came out that he was?
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I think if it had been that widely known he wouldn't have been a presidential candidate. That is, a) most people wouldn't have voted for him and b) the Dems would have pulled their support because it would have made him unelectable. So, I'm going with a lot of people were quite surprised.
You also neglected to comment on the fact that this guy's not in Congress.
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08-27-2010, 08:55 AM
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You also neglected to comment on the fact that this guy's not in Congress.
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^^^Thank you...quite true, thus I am corrected.
As a matter of fact let me change that by saying I am not surprised that any of our government officials regardless of their status (elected, non elected, hired, appointed, etc) gets caught with their hands in the cookie jar.
I still think that somebody has dirt on everybody and everybody has dirt on somebody, it's just that how many palms are getting greased to keep that dirt quiet.
As I said a long time back, you can't walk through the political playground without getting your feet dirty.
Now, here is a question to put onto the table, since he apparently the 'highest ranking GOPer" to have ever come out, what has his position been (not now) on gay rights?
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08-27-2010, 08:57 AM
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I fail to see why this is news. Maybe it is just me, but I really dont care that this man is gay regardless of whether or not he decides to be open about it or keep it to himself.
Gay issues really arent a concern to me either at the moment. My #1 right now is with the shitty economy and jobs and maybe healthcare. Every other issue is taking a backseat for me presently.
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