Unrecognized?

[Curious Mike]

Hey everyone, I was just wondering what it means if a Fraternity or Sorority is not recognized by the University's Greek council (like during bid night there is no ceremony with all the other fraternitys/sorority members present)...but the fraternity or sorority is still national....okay hope that wasn't too confusing....thanx for all that reply =)

[amycat412]

Usually means the chapters charter was pulled and is no longer recognized as a sanctioned university group or by the GLOs nationals.

[Miami1839]

My chapter got its charter revoked unfortunately back in 97 and we were no longer recognized as a Fraternity by the University. Our nationals still lists my chapter and school as inactive under our site. However that doesnt mean we will not be brothers for life. I will be a Beta till I die! Plus, I think of it this way when I look back on it.... My campus lost a great group of guys, a great source of support, and we are in the top 20 percent nationally. We were given alumni status after we lost the charter but that doesnt mean that someday we might recolonize and get the charter back

Kevin
Beta Theta Pi Alum
Epsilon Mu
Sigma 1994
George Mason '97

[This message has been edited by Miami1839 (edited March 22, 2001).]

[shadokat]

We had about half of the fraternities at my school be unrecognized. Basically, they didn't participate in anything campus sponsored such as homecoming, greek week, planned rush, IFC/NPC/IGC decisions. Other than that, they thrived! They had their own rush events, that they publicized on campus, even though they weren't recognized. They got a lot of new members, and they did everything as a normal fraternity would. Now mind you, most were locals, but a couple nationals got thrown off campus, but their national didn't take their charters and just put them on probation.

[veruca76]

Okay - at CU-Boulder we are ALL officially unrecognized by the university and they don't have any bid night things at all. We have floats in the homecoming parade but that's about it. Chi Psi got in some trouble and were unrecognized even by IFC for a little while so they didn't do Greek Week, Homecoming or anything. Regardless, they seemed to survive on campus just fine. They did however gain a reputation as the druggie house but that might just have been mystery surrounding them.

[Billy Optimist]

there are several underground or off campus orgs at my school. One is in trouble because of their name is the same as a national honoary co-ed one, but i think that died down. I know there is some ressentment because they don't have to follow rules. None of them are national though. I'm not sure if all of them were, but two I know for sure. The others might have always been local, but this was an all girls school for the longest time.

[33girl]

veruca - CU derecognized the Greek system?? Didn't they go dry to prevent that? (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Billy O - are there local sororities and local fraternities there? I thought everything at Radford was national.

Everyone - there are a couple different kinds of unrecognized. Usually if a national chapter gets its charter pulled the college follows suit and derecognizes them, unless the college thinks the national is full of @#%* and allows the group to reorganize locally. (this doesn't happen too often nowadays)

Or, at some of the northeastern schools that derecognized the whole fraternity system (like Colby and Hamilton) their national still recognizes them as chapters because there was no problem, the school is just being jerky when it comes to the Greek system.

[veruca76]

Originally posted by 33girl:
veruca - CU derecognized the Greek system?? Didn't they go dry to prevent that? (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Here's a quote from the school's website:
The Greek Liaison Office acts as a communication link and advocate between Greek-affiliated students and the University. Fraternities and sororities at the University of Colorado are not legally affiliated with the University. The Greek Liaison Office also assists in the implementation of good self-government and positive leadership development.

As a University we do not exercise direct control over the Greek system. We are however, not without influence. The Greek Liaison Office works closely with all of the various national headquarters, local alumni boards, and advisors. We are also here to assist parents of CU-Boulder's Greek-affiliated students.

It's been like that since I enrolled in fall of '94. It's even gone so far that we were once told not to put the schools official logo on our t-shirts because it implied a direct relationship. If you really want to know why we went dry I'll have to start a new thread or e-mail you. Basically it was mounting pressure from school, parents and the community after the unfortunate death of a freshman sorority girl in the spring of '94.

[Billy Optimist]

Originally posted by 33girl:


Billy O - are there local sororities and local fraternities there? I thought everything at Radford was national.

they are, just underground.

[KSig RC]

We have two houses on campus that are unrecognized, but still chartered - it depends on the organization, whether or not the chapter can go sub rosa and keep its charter. For the record, one of the two is doing well, and the other has waned but is on the rebound. They still mix and etc, they just don't participate in IFC activities (and thus don't have to abide by rush rules . . . which is actually beneficial for them . . . )

[Dewgirl]

My organization is not recognized by the greek councils at my school, although we are an international fraternity. We are, however, recognized by the student org. office, etc.

We are (now) co-ed, and considered both a profesional and social fraternity, which is where our non-recognition comes in.

Basically what it means for us is that we do our own rush, independent from other groups, do not participate in Greek Week activities, and are put in the "Student Organization" category at Homecoming instead of the "Greek" category (which is actually okay, because we'd get killed at Homecoming if we were up against the other greeks!)

[This message has been edited by Dewgirl (edited March 28, 2001).]