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10-16-2009, 06:35 AM
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Bashed by the school newspaper
So, my school newspaper published this today in response to the end of our formal recruitment.
http://thedartmouth.com/2009/10/16/opinion/verbum/
I am an alumna, so I shouldn't be as upset by it, but I am.
How does one respond? The idea of doing an unstructured recruitment "like the fraternities" is unreasonable for so many reasons. All the women would go for the top two sororities, and then an even smaller percentage would end up with bids.
I'm going to bow out and let the current Panhellenic deal with it, but I am still so upset.
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10-16-2009, 07:15 AM
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While Panhell blames those women for not completing the process “in good faith” — whatever that means — we believe that a system that only works for 67 percent of interested women needs to be fixed.
Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.
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10-16-2009, 09:42 AM
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Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.
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Senusret I, this just made my morning. I laughed out loud because some days this is what I wish I could say!
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10-16-2009, 09:48 AM
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While Panhell blames those women for not completing the process “in good faith” — whatever that means — we believe that a system that only works for 67 percent of interested women needs to be fixed.
Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.
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REP!
(Another message board I frequent also uses vBulletin and they have the option of repping a post you like. Sometimes I think we need that here.)
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10-16-2009, 09:50 AM
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[/I]Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.
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For the win.
Seriously, I'd never respond to these types of things because the people writing them have no real clue what they're critiquing in terms of recruitment and won't really care or understand if you try to provide them with any actual information.
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10-16-2009, 09:50 AM
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I notice they don't have a comment section... hmmm.
I wonder who wrote that and what their experience with the NPC is.
Also, question: Does Dartmouth not COB? Or does the paper just not know about it? I can't imagine with a brand new chapter that ALL chapters are at total... but I could be wrong.
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10-16-2009, 09:58 AM
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I'm tired of the misleading stat of how many PNMs got Bids out of how many started Recruitment. Why is it the system's fault that some PNM had an "XYZ or nothing" mindset, then quit when they dropped her?
Also, if folks are going to use that stat as an argument in favor of changing to fraternity style Recruitment, then please provide some fraternity placement stats for an accurate comparison. How many guys actually get bids compared to the number who sign up for/attend Recruitment events? These critics seem to think fraternities go around slapping pins on everyone who was invited to/showed up for a Recruitment event.
It's also not just about Recruitment either. To be fair one needs to look at comparison stats on the number of pledges sororities and fraternities initiate out of the number of bids that were accepted. (Lane swerving, I'm no expert on fraternities so please correct me if I'm wrong.) Fraternities tend to view accepting a bid as only the beginning of the process for a new member to prove himself worthy of initiation. For sororities on the other hand, it is far less common for a pledge to have her pin pulled.
Neither system is better or worse than the other. Each has its own pro's and con's.
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10-16-2009, 11:01 AM
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The news story in the same paper makes clear that the lower numbers were the result of dropouts, not cuts.
http://thedartmouth.com/2009/10/14/news/rush
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Last edited by carnation; 08-02-2013 at 11:04 AM.
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10-16-2009, 11:11 AM
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You're right Zillini. I can't tell you how many times I've heard the phrase, "It's just a vote to bid, we don't have to initiate him." Its not uncommon on my campus for chapters to initiate only seventy-five or even fifty percent of their original pledge class.
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10-16-2009, 12:13 PM
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Grrr.... dear author of the news story. It is Kappa Delta - with an "a" NOT "Kappa Delt". Not sure if that's what they've begun to be referred to on that campus (not really a common nickname overall), but even if it were, it's not really appropriate to use throughout a news article.
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10-16-2009, 12:21 PM
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So, if you take the 98 women who CHOSE to drop out from the numbers, you have 227 of the remaining 242 women receiving votes, about 94%. I notice they didn't use THAT stat anywhere though....
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10-16-2009, 12:37 PM
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Bitches need to maximize their options, even I know that.
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Most awesome comment ever!
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10-16-2009, 12:44 PM
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So, if you take the 98 women who CHOSE to drop out from the numbers, you have 227 of the remaining 242 women receiving votes, about 94%. I notice they didn't use THAT stat anywhere though....
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Exactly what I was going to say.
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10-16-2009, 12:57 PM
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So nice she told us twice!
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10-16-2009, 01:00 PM
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Because I am Senusret I!
HOLLLAAAA!!!!
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