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Old 05-06-2010, 01:20 PM
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Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees

On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.


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I half call shennanigans on this. The other half understands if this was perceived as a staged American revolt of sorts. LOL. I'm mostly leaning on the shennanigans, though. LOL.
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:26 PM
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On any other day at Live Oak High School in Morgan Hill, Daniel Galli and his four friends would not even be noticed for wearing T-shirts with the American flag. But Cinco de Mayo is not any typical day especially on a campus with a large Mexican American student population.

Galli says he and his friends were sitting at a table during brunch break when the vice principal asked two of the boys to remove American flag bandannas that they wearing on their heads and for the others to turn their American flag T-shirts inside out. When they refused, the boys were ordered to go to the principal's office.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36981179?GT1=43001

I half call shennanigans on this. The other half understands if this was perceived as a staged American revolt of sorts. LOL. I'm mostly leaning on the shennanigans, though. LOL.

This is bullshit.


So far the district itself seems to disagree with the school's actions
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:40 PM
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One other thing and then we can move on:


Some other Mexican-American students reportedly said their flags were taken away or asked to be put away, but no other students were sent home on Wednesday.

Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at the University of California-Los Angeles, said the students are protected under California Education Code 48950, which prohibits schools from enforcing a rule subjecting a high school student to disciplinary sanctions solely on the basis of conduct, that when engaged outside of campus, is protected by the First Amendment.

If the school could point to previous incidents sparked by students who wore garments with American flags, they could argue that the flag is likely to lead to "substantial disruption," Volokh said.

"If, for example, there had been fights over similar things at past events, if there had been specific threats made," he said. "But if [school officials] just say, 'Well, we think it might be offensive to people,' that's generally speaking not enough."

Volokh said the students and their parents likely have a winning case on their hands if they decide to take the matter to court.

"Oh yes, it's almost open and shut," he said.


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Old 05-06-2010, 02:01 PM
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^^^^ I wonder if this school district has Flag Day or patriot day?
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:02 PM
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That's pretty stupid. I didn't realize this was at Live Oak! That's like 20 minutes from me. I think the students were being stupid kids but if American flags aren't against the dress code, I don't think they should have gotten in trouble for it.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:02 PM
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^^^^ I wonder if this school district has Flag Day or patriot day?
Probably not. Plus Flag Day is June 14 which is on the border of when school ends.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:03 PM
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Cinco de Mayo is not even a holiday in most of Mexico. It is just a reason for people in the U.S. to drink Tequila and Mexican beer. Not that there is anything wrong with that. May 5th is the day the Mexicans defeated the French under Napolean III at the Battle of Puebla. It is mostly a local Holiday down there.

I cannot believe we would send kids home for wearing the flag or it's colors. I don't care if it is "shennanigans". I agree and call it BS too.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:29 PM
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You thought that was dumb? This is dumberer
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:45 PM
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You thought that was dumb? This is dumberer
While the choice of attire may not have been appropriate for court, jailing her for two days over that? Really? I view that as a waste of my tax dollars!
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:46 PM
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I don't care if it is "shennanigans". I agree and call it BS too.
Huh?

LOL.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:47 PM
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You thought that was dumb? This is dumberer
That's pretty damn stupid.

I doubt anyone would have been focused on the shirt had the judge not brought it to the attention of everyone.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:48 PM
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That is contempt of court.

She should have been thrown out of court if she refused to turn the shirt inside out. Not jailed.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:49 PM
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That is contempt of court.

She should have been thrown out of court if she refused to turn the shirt inside out. Not jailed.
She didn't refuse. The judge said that it was "too late" to fix the situation.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:51 PM
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She was dumb for wearing it.

The judge was dumb for having her jailed.

Enough dumb to go around.
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Old 05-06-2010, 02:53 PM
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Cinco de Mayo is also a time for party promoters to make money. If I get one more damn email about a grown and sexy Cinco de Mayo party.
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