Most chapters at Phi Beta Kappa schools

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Not at all.



If you say so.



Absolutely. As it should be.

Sure.

Originally Posted by oldu

Both the NPC & NIC make available lists of each campus and which of their organizaitons are on it. That makes reports such as this far simpler. Does anyone know if NPHC has such a list? If it is available I will be more than happy to revise the list to include those groups...and multi-nationals if those are available. I realize that it may look like I attempted to slight some groups, Actually I was only working with material available. I am right now trying to assemble a list of all chapters of NPHC groups and, despite what some peolpe are saying, it is not an easy task. If there is a complete and concise list for your organization please advise where I can find it so that your information is not omited in the future.

"You can do it!!!!!!" ~ Dude from The Waterboy

[HDL66]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

How about the NPHC groups?

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Like, OMIGOSH, and to have to make the same phone call NINE WHOLE TIMES?????

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Are you serious? It's not about caring enough -- he can make NINE phone calls and most likely get all the information he needs! LAZY!

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I (the specific I) have provided the best way to obtain the information.

But for the record -- did anyone really care that much about the information being presented on ANY of the councils?

If you're going to have a thread as general as "Most chapters at Phi Beta Kappa schools" and not qualify it as being about WHITE GLOS only (yes, I said it, and for a reason), then yes, oldu should be held to a standard of doing research on just nine more orgs and making it complete.

Hell, several of the NPHCs are older than some of the NICs and NPCS.

And let's not get into Phi Beta Kappa schools where there are ONLY NPHC orgs.

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Perception is reality. In this case, it just underscores what a "boneheaded" idea for a thread this was in the first place.

It's too bad you changed your signature line. The old one (I think it was about something being the new black) fit you so well.

If my kids were acting like you (and several other posters), this is what I would tell them: Perhaps you should tell oldu that you feel slighted when he overlooks NPHC chapters in his posts. Then YOU should do some work YOURSELF and add the information that you think is missing. Instead, you have spent pages complaining without ever adding a single bit of relevant data to the thread. (I personally would be interested to know where NPHC chapters fit in the discussion.)

So many people in life would prefer to wallow around in "it's not fair" and "you owe me ______" than improve the situation.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by HDL66

It's too bad you changed your signature line. The old one (I think it was about something being the new black) fit you so well.

If my kids were acting like you (and several other posters), this is what I would tell them: Perhaps you should tell oldu that you feel slighted when he overlooks NPHC chapters in his posts. Then YOU should do some work YOURSELF and add the information that you think is missing. Instead, you have spent pages complaining without ever adding a single bit of relevant data to the thread. (I personally would be interested to know where NPHC chapters fit in the discussion.)

So many people in life would prefer to wallow around in "it's not fair" and "you owe me ______" than improve the situation.

BITCH


































is the new black. That was my signature. I'm happy to remind you of it.


Lucky for me, I'm not your child.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by HDL66

If my kids were acting like you (and several other posters), this is what I would tell them: Perhaps you should tell oldu that you feel slighted when he overlooks NPHC chapters in his posts. Then YOU should do some work YOURSELF and add the information that you think is missing.

The point has soared over your head completely.

FWIW, irishpipes does threads like this and no one has ever complained about omission because she titles it "NPC Recruitment" or the like.

But oldu's threads never say most NIC chapters, most NPC chapters...it's just assumed. Not only NPHC groups but service greeks, professional greeks, multicultural greeks are omitted.

Why should anyone other than oldu do the work? He takes it upon himself to create these threads, if he's wrong he needs to go back and correct it.

Not only that, the whole thread is faulty because it doesn't include closed chapters. If we're looking at colonizing at a PBK-having school as a sign of what makes a GLO "better", shouldn't we look at ALL the chapters that have been colonized?

[kddani]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The point has soared over your head completely.

FWIW, irishpipes does threads like this and no one has ever complained about omission because she titles it "NPC Recruitment" or the like.

But oldu's threads never say most NIC chapters, most NPC chapters...it's just assumed. Not only NPHC groups but service greeks, professional greeks, multicultural greeks are omitted.

Why should anyone other than oldu do the work? He takes it upon himself to create these threads, if he's wrong he needs to go back and correct it.

Not only that, the whole thread is faulty because it doesn't include closed chapters. If we're looking at colonizing at a PBK-having school as a sign of what makes a GLO "better", shouldn't we look at ALL the chapters that have been colonized?

Who knows? Maybe GLO chapters at schools with PBK are MORE likely to close!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by HDL66

It's too bad you changed your signature line. The old one (I think it was about something being the new black) fit you so well.

Get over it.

[Little32]

Originally Posted by kddani

Who knows? Maybe GLO chapters at schools with PBK are MORE likely to close!

And I think the is the lesson that we should all carry from this thread. PBK a threat to social greek orgs everywhere!

[starang21]

:wassat:

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by oldu

Both the NPC & NIC make available lists of each campus and which of their organizaitons are on it. That makes reports such as this far simpler. Does anyone know if NPHC has such a list? If it is available I will be more than happy to revise the list to include those groups...and multi-nationals if those are available. I realize that it may look like I attempted to slight some groups, Actually I was only working with material available. I am right now trying to assemble a list of all chapters of NPHC groups and, despite what some peolpe are saying, it is not an easy task. If there is a complete and concise list for your organization please advise where I can find it so that your information is not omited in the future.

The chapter lists for Delta can be found by going to each region's website and accessing the chapter lists from there. With so many chapters, it makes the most sense to split them up this way. Links to each regional website can be found on the national website here.

[cuteASAbug]

oldu, since you referrenced this thread in your other one, I got inspired and read through all nine pages of this one. I'm not sure if you know how the NPC expansion process works, but we can only expand to schools that have declared themselves open to expansion. It does not matter if every student there has a 4.0, is a member of Phi Beta Kappa, and a Rhodes Scholar- if the campus is not open for expansion, no NPC sorority will colonize there.

[Low C Sharp]

if the campus is not open for expansion, no NPC sorority will colonize there.

But that doesn't make matching of NPCs to campuses random. It's not.
________
Glass Blown Bowl

[oldu]

The Delta Sigma Theta site does not have a complete listing of chapters. Only part of the regions have a current chapter list. However, even those that do make no mention of several chapters listed in old Baird's Manuals which means either there is a substantial number of inactive chapters or that even those lists are not complete.

Huge fraternities Kappa Sig & TKE have a complete list of all chapters ever chartered and whether they are active or inactive. Slightly smaller Sigma Pi goes one step farther and gives a short history of each chapter. It sure would be helpful if every fraternity and sorority provided that type of information on their site.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by oldu

The Delta Sigma Theta site does not have a complete listing of chapters. Only part of the regions have a current chapter list. However, even those that do make no mention of several chapters listed in old Baird's Manuals which means either there is a substantial number of inactive chapters or that even those lists are not complete.

Those in Baird's not listed on a regional site could be a: retired, b: inactive, c: or suspended. Baird's does not trump our own records.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Those in Baird's not listed on a regional site could be a: retired, b: inactive, c: or suspended. Baird's does not trump our own records.

Was he asking for clarity because he was confused or was he trying to school us eventhough knowledgeable members gave him the direction he requested?

oldu:
The Midwest Region is the only of our 7 regions that I could not find a chapter listing on their site. The other 6 have an easily found chapter listing and only 1 of these regions does not list the college/university name beside the chapter designation. These lists are accurate, as ladygreek stated. Good luck.

[DSTRen13]

I'm sorry (or not ...), but I really don't think that the developers and/or designers for any GLO's website really had this kind of research in mind, or are particularly concerned about it. That's just not the purpose of the sites, and the usability of a website for obsessive-compulsive GLO-comparison research isn't one of the criteria that any normal person browsing cares at all about.

Furthermore, for the record, Delta has over 900 chapters, many more than Kappa Sigma (234 according to their national website) or TKE (approximately 300 according to their national website). They are both wonderful organizations, but they have different considerations about how they organize their websites and chapter information. (And honestly, I doubt that obsessive-compulsive GLO-comparison research is one of their considerations either ... even if their way DOES happen to make it easier. It's a coincidence, imagine that!)