Minorities in 'white' frats/sororities

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by Senusret I
They will probably wait and join an alumni/graduate chapter.

SOME pick a second choice and find a home there.

It depends on what the aspirant finds most important.

As alum, can they speak with several different GLOs the way you can wth NPC? I just find the NPHC method much more "rigid" than NPC. I really don't understand how you can make a decision based on what's on the website/printed info because you aren't actually interacting with the members. What the website says can be different from the members on one's particular campus.

[jwoods9]

I have noticed that there is an emphasis for those interested in NPC/IFC to pledge their freshman year...sophomore the latest....

Although there are some NPHC/NALFO/NMGC members who pledge their freshman year, most seem to take their time to get familiar with their university and the GLOs themselves.

I didn't attend my first information session until my junior year, which is also the same year that I pledged. By that time I was familiar with the GLOs on my campus and even those at other schools.

The internet wasn't as prevalent when I was in school. Most GLOs did not have websites at that time, but we learned about GLOs by word of mouth of family, friends, Meet the Greeks, etc.

I had friends that were NPC/IFC, Deltas, Zetas, AKA, Sigmas, Ques, SGRho, OPC, CUS, LTA, LTP, LUL, LSU, MSU, PSP, etc. etc. etc. and continued being friends with them even after I chose the organization that was right for me.

Omega Phi Chi was actually the only GLO I looked into further because it was the right one for me. All the other GLOs are excellent, but the one I chose was the right one for me.

[msn4med1975]

Originally posted by Taualumna
As alum, can they speak with several different GLOs the way you can wth NPC? I just find the NPHC method much more "rigid" than NPC. I really don't understand how you can make a decision based on what's on the website/printed info because you aren't actually interacting with the members. What the website says can be different from the members on one's particular campus.

I think folks are interpreting this as hard and fast rules. People can do whatever they like. If they attend all the informationals some folks will see them as having tried to become well informed, however a vast majority will say they couldn't make up their mind. Because going into the NPHC process we know that we are expected to be active until health or death prevents us from doing so then the folks on a particular campus become less important than the national organization does. AGAIN because we do not live together in OFFICIAL sorority/fraternity houses and most NPHC orgs require you to be sophomores to join, there isn't as much time on campus together to begin with. On top of which we don't necessarily hold rush yearly so someone may really only get a chance to join in their soph or senior year if that is how the chapter is alternating.

As an alumnae initiate, I could have looked at the other NPHC sororities again but as another member already mentioned my personal ideals and goals matched up to Delta so there was no point in that really. And as I've mentioned before, while anyone is welcome to apply most folks leave the rush process without being extending an offer of membership because it is a HIGHLY selective process.

ETA: We don't do alumnae initiation the same way as NPC/IFC do either (big surprise lol) so there is no direct contact with HQ before a chapter has decided to have rush. As alumnae/alumni members we are initiated through alumnae/alumni chapters.

[TheEpitome1920]

Do you go into an interview without having done some research on the company you want to work for??

Would you get married without knowing anything about your future mate's background?

Do you buy shoes without trying them on first?

Because of the complexity and requirements that GLOs put on their members I would strongly urge that anyone whether they are seeking NPHC, NPC, NIC, MGC, NALFO membership to do research.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally posted by Taualumna
As alum, can they speak with several different GLOs the way you can wth NPC? I just find the NPHC method much more "rigid" than NPC. I really don't understand how you can make a decision based on what's on the website/printed info because you aren't actually interacting with the members. What the website says can be different from the members on one's particular campus.

When we tell some one to "research the info", the internet is only part of it. Before the internet, we told perspectives to "research" and they did it and still do it by speaking with members. There is no way around that. There is no way you can get all information from the internet. Our groups are about PEOPLE. So, you must converse with PEOPLE to get the info.

ETA

The internet is just a tool as are books, articles, etc.. to get the needed information.

[TheEpitome1920]

Originally posted by NinjaPoodle
When we tell some one to "research the info", the internet is only part of it. Before the internet, we told pespectives to "research" and they did it and still do it by speaking with members. There is no way around that. There is no way you can get all information from the internet. Our groups are about PEOPLE. So, you must converse with PEOPLE to get the info.

Exactly! That includes getting to know chapter members, attending events, participating in community service events. and reading books and articles written about our organizations.

I would be upset if someone thought that by simply reading our website they knew enough about Zeta.

[Senusret I]

^^^Two great posts.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by NinjaPoodle
When we tell some one to "research the info", the internet is only part of it. Before the internet, we told pespectives to "research" and they did it and still do it by speaking with members. There is no way around that. There is no way you can get all information from the internet. Our groups are about PEOPLE. So, you must converse with PEOPLE to get the info.

ETA

The internet is just a tool as are books, articles, etc.. to get the needed information.

As my sister-Soror said, speaking and meaningful interaction with members is key, although other sources of information/research are important.
If you can't interact with members, why would you want to be a part of us?

[Wolfman]

I would like to throw in a caveat for non-NPHC members on the MSP of our organizations. It just so happens, rightly or wrongly, that most NPCH groups have a national "reputation" or "stereotype" that does orient young men and women to these groups. This is true, whether we want to admit it or not--it's a two-edged sword! So people know about the "Que Dogs" or "Pretty boys," or "Gentlemen scholars" when they come into the college experience. And this does have an impact on people expectations in terms of what organization they want to become a part of.

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by NinjaPoodle
When we tell some one to "research the info", the internet is only part of it. Before the internet, we told perspectives to "research" and they did it and still do it by speaking with members. There is no way around that. There is no way you can get all information from the internet. Our groups are about PEOPLE. So, you must converse with PEOPLE to get the info.

ETA

The internet is just a tool as are books, articles, etc.. to get the needed information.

Do potential NPHC-ers speak with members on your campus as a group or individually? I'd think that speaking with chapter members would be more effective, since you get a feel of what the entire chapter is like...

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally posted by Taualumna
Do potential NPHC-ers speak with members on your campus as a group or individually?

Yes, they speak to "us" either way. Grad, Undergrad it doesn't matter. It's ONE organization.

Originally posted by Taualumna
I'd think that speaking with chapter members would be more effective, since you get a feel of what the entire chapter is like...

More effective than what?

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by NinjaPoodle
Yes, they speak to "us" either way. Grad, Undergrad it doesn't matter. It's ONE organization.



More effective than what?

More effective than speaking with two or three members of the organization that may or may not be from the same chapter.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally posted by Taualumna
More effective than speaking with two or three members of the organization that may or may not be from the same chapter.

Sending you a PM

[starang21]

why do i feel like i'm at a meet the greeks right now?

[preciousjeni]

Originally posted by starang21
why do i feel like i'm at a meet the greeks right now?

Bwahahahahaha! I really do like ya starang!