Sen. Strom Thurmond - Page 8

AlphaSigOU · #**106** 06-28-2003, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by swissmiss04
Um, listen, I have plenty to say about Malcolm X. And you know what? It's GOOD stuff. Sure he espoused some very racist views and actions early in his "career" but gradually moved away from those and from the Nation of Islam (if you want to talk racism, they could write the book). He went on to promote intelligent dialogue between the races and so sadly was cut off in his prime by his own people who wanted to keep the "old ways". So tragic. Yet another example among so many that originally erred in judgement and went on to make amends. Sure Strom was racist. Personally, I wasn't a fan. But he did do a lot for a state that for so long was impoverished. But I feel that any man, no matter how "crazy" he might be, who served his country for as long as Sen. Thurmond did should at least be spared the ugly comments. Or at least for the sake of his family, if nothing else. I don't "expect" anyone to mourn, or even to think he was a decent human. But common courtesy expects that people know how to speak well or keep silent. Show that you're the better man (or woman) and refrain from rudeness. I'm not just saying this to you, but to everyone. Sure there are fans, there are "non-fans" and then those who don't care. But I think that we all need to loosen up and just let it go. He's dead. He messed up. We all do. End of story. End of rant. Thank you.

Well said, swissmiss!

Honeykiss1974 · #**107** 06-28-2003, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by swissmiss04
I'm sure we could ask a mod, but I'm pretty sure Bamboozled's post was deleted because it used the n-word (which is 100% a nono in any situation) straight out and not somehow censored. It's not a matter of opposing viewpoints, just inappropriate language. Moderators, any comment???

The post that got deleted earlier this morning was the one that said "Good ridance to bad rubbish". The N-word post was and still is untouched.

swissmiss04 · #**108** 06-28-2003, 01:30 AM

Well then I guess that's different. I still think any post containing racial slurs or sexually derogatory statements should be deleted. We don't need that sh*t. Unfortunately the mods have full right to do pretty much what they want. We're all at their mercy, and if someone doesn't agree w/ the mods decisions he/she is free to not post. Freedom does work both ways, which I think we've forgotten. I think that despite the very apparent anger being slung around, many people on both sides are making valid arguments. But I hope it doesn't turn into some divisive battle royale.

librasoul22 · #**109** 06-28-2003, 08:06 AM

Well this is my first foray into this thread...wow.

docetboy, I think you need to evaluate your posts before you hit "Reply." How are you going to tell people NOT to post their opinions...and then turn around and post your own?? Not everyone feels that Thurmond was a "great American" so deal with it.

Also, it kinda makes me uncomfortable to think that people are heralding him as a "great American." If he was great for this country, I am terrified of what is BAD.

He did many positive things....for HIS segment of the population. Yay for him! Unfortunately that excludes a great deal of people, and those people have every right to be unhappy about it.

And omg! He hired ONE black person??? Well let me erase this entire post!!

How many employees has he had TOTAL throughout his LOOOOOONG career? Sigh.

AXO Alum · #**110** 06-28-2003, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by damasa
Some of you people in this thread are nucking futs

ROFLMAO -- that is a funny expression that I'll never get tired of hearing!! (oh, for the record, I have heard the term "owning people" in regards to whoopin' em for a long time -- I understand how it could have been misinterpreted in this instance, but I think damasa has explained the real intent (sad picture!!) )

361 times I am so glad that I am not the one being bashed for something!!

*winks to kitso* and walking away....

AlphaGamDiva · #**111** 06-28-2003, 04:11 PM

lol....yeah, anyone taking damasa seriously is just funny in itself!

you luv me, blaine, don't play!

damasa · #**112** 06-28-2003, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaGamDiva

you luv me, blaine, don't play!

yea, just as much as the fleas of 100 camels infesting my pubic area.....

AlphaGamDiva · #**113** 06-28-2003, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by damasa
yea, just as much as the fleas of 100 camels infesting my pubic area.....

after having them for so long, i guess you would get attached....

you LOSE!

damasa · #**114** 06-28-2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaGamDiva
after having them for so long, i guess you would get attached....

you LOSE!

=

AlphaGamDiva · #**115** 06-28-2003, 05:43 PM

oh blaine....you really should go on the road with this humor of your's....seriously......it's just that great.

DeltAlum · #**116** 06-28-2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by librasoul22
And omg! He hired ONE black person??? Well let me erase this entire post!! How many employees has he had TOTAL throughout his LOOOOOONG career? Sigh.

In fairness, the stories I read say he hired THE FIRST black staffer of any Southern Senator -- not that he hired ONE. I have no idea how many he did or didn't hire. It also says he was the driving guy behind Justice Clarence Thomas for the Supreme Court, voted in favor of Martin Luther King's birthday as Federal holiday, pushed through the first black Federal Judge in the South among other things.

Frankly, I never liked the guy much, but I don't think it is entirely fair to hold the way he was a half century ago, when social mores were totally different in the whole country not to mention the South where he grew up against him now.

The whole country has changed dramatically in that amount of time -- I'm willing to believe that the late Senator might have also.

librasoul22 · #**117** 06-28-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
...It also says he was the driving guy behind Justice Clarence Thomas for the Supreme Court...

This right here is enough to make me dislike Strom forever. Believe me, Clarence is only black on the OUTSIDE. I have to go now, but if anyone wants to hijack the thread a bit with me, I will post some info on Mr. Thomas later. Or maybe I will just start a whole new thread, lol.

Tom Earp · #**118** 06-28-2003, 10:31 PM

Strom Thurmond was one of the most driving forces of the Government of the USA!

He was a Dixiecrat and supposedly changed!

Whether he Hired 1 or more Blacks in his offce is signicant in his time of Power!

Right or wrong, he was one powerful SOB in OUR Govt! He did change the face of Our Govt. Not because of his reformation and beleifs for Blacks Rights!

I never liked him because of the Power that he had!

When you Political ego maniacs get over Rep and Dem. maybe you can figure out it doesnot make any difference what name they go under! They are the POWER and beleive in The POWER!

Screw us the Members of America!

How many Pour Congress Men Do You Know!!!!!????

Dont even get me started on the Kennedys!!!!!

Last Good Pres. --- Harry Truman!!!!!

RedefinedDiva · #**119** 06-29-2003, 12:42 AM

This thread was dead and done and someone had to revive it....
Well, if you want the discussion to continue, so be it.

Here's a little food for thought: What if there was this girl that you know from school who beats your ass everyday as you walk home? Starting in kindergarten, all the way through college, she beats your ass. I mean, she beats the hell out of you. You want to fight back, but you feel helpless. She sometimes has friends who help her whip your ass. You don't bother calling the police on her because most of the firce consists of her friends and family. Her dad is even the police chief. They won't arrest her. They just call it "horseplay" among young kids. But, one day, after 17 years of whipping your ass, she realizes that you are getting a little bit taller and have been taking karate classes. You have friends and family that are joining the police force. She knows that she may start getting in trouble if she continues to beat you up. So, she brings you a bouquet of roses and a batch of your favorite cookies and says, "I'm sorry, DeltAlum. Let's be friends." Is all forgiven just because she brings you flowers?

In your perfect world, you probably would. But, how can someone make up for your torture and anguish of 17 years with cookies and flowers? THEY CAN'T!! When your back is against a wall, you will pull out all of the stops. Just like voting on some lousy ALREADY ACTIVATED Voting Rights Act and hiring "the first African-American committee member." For those that have requested more recent votes, here they are:

Voted NO on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
Voted NO on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted YES on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)

Just to name a few.... Now, where is it that he has been trying to help "us" in RECENT years?

RedefinedDiva · #**120** 06-29-2003, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by librasoul22
This right here is enough to make me dislike Strom forever. Believe me, Clarence is only black on the OUTSIDE. I have to go now, but if anyone wants to hijack the thread a bit with me, I will post some info on Mr. Thomas later. Or maybe I will just start a whole new thread, lol.

They can't handle this Thurmond thread! Don't get started on Thomas! They aren't ready....