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Old 11-30-2005, 05:36 PM
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So, to get back to the original question (?) who is supposed to help the Smaller GLOs or Chapters on Campus?
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:01 PM
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My frustration with NPC is that while equality is great (obviously) I also feel like it is just as vital to promote diversity.
Ding ding ding! I realize I'm taking this statement out of context, but I think it's still a great point.

Campus Panhellenics, when expanding, could make the effort to diverify the state. When a campus is looking to expand, I wish they would be more open-minded to inviting groups that already AREN'T represented at another campus in the area. I've noticed from other threads that campuses seem to pick groups that are at a neighboring campus. For example, I've seen comments such as, "Well, ABC is at Tri-State U (45 miles up the road), and since we're trying to be competitive with Tri-State U, we decided on ABC." Granted, this means there is a better chance that more alumnae from that group will live in the area, but that's not an absolute. There may be more XYZs than ABCs who live there!

Something someone else mentioned that I'd like to reiterate is that NPC needs to stress to each college Panhellenic that they are only hurting themselves by trying to limit other groups. Example: a campus here in NC was expanding. A local interest group had petitioned for a new NPC, and they asked some NPCs to come present. One of the groups chosen to present, ABC, was chosen because many legacies of that group go to this particular university and were a part of that interest group. When the college Panhellenic voted between having ABC or XYZ come to that campus, they decided on XYZ, because, "if we bring ABC to campus, our numbers will go down because the legacies will now have the opportunity to join that group."
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:06 PM
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Latest announcement per Bulletin 98 – Nov. 15

Carnegie-Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA – A local seeking NPC affiliation.
Clayton State University, Morrow, Georgia – Ground up. Opening to NPC for the first time. Already has six NPHCs, two NPHC colonies and one NIC colony, Sigma Pi.
Coastal Carolina University, Conway, South Carolina – Ground up
Dartmouth College, Hanover, New Hampshire – There is an NPC interest group.
De Paul University, Chicago, Illinois – Ground up
University of LaVerne, LaVerne, California - Ground up
University of Virginia’s College at Wise, Wise, Virginia - Two locals seeking NPC affiliation.
University of Wisconsin, Parkside, Kenosha, Wisconsin - There is an interest group. Opening to NPC for the first time. Already has several multicultural sororities and fraternities.
What bullentin is this from? Just curious.
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:13 PM
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What bullentin is this from? Just curious.
NPC Extension Bulletin - sent 6-10 times per year to Executive offices, NPC delegations and Expansion Directors for each of the 26 NPC groups.

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:14 PM
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So, to get back to the original question (?) who is supposed to help the Smaller GLOs or Chapters on Campus?
I don't think this is the original question, is it?

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:23 PM
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Let's face it - I was ready to be gung ho for TPA at Duquesne because of their religion, not knowing that the focus group was primarily Jewish! And as an aside, TPA was very strict about being Roman Catholic when I went through Rush.

I can understand that the sororities must speak up first, and say that they would like to expand, as for all I know, there's a GLO or two that wants to stay small(er). But Panhellenics are all about trying to spread the wealth - or at least, they should be!
Can someone please tell me where this rumor that Dusquene's interest group is Jewish? This was NOT communicated through the NPC bulletin.

Besides the national in question, I think it is the job of the campus panhellenic to help the struggling chapter (this is not the smaller NPC groups I am talking about). Every campus has a chapter which could be doing better. Release figures should help a bit as larger groups cannot hold onto extra girls in earlier rounds.

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Old 11-30-2005, 06:37 PM
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:42 PM
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Besides the national in question, I think it is the job of the campus panhellenic to help the struggling chapter (this is not the smaller NPC groups I am talking about). Every campus has a chapter which could be doing better.
I think you are right that some of the solution is local campus culture. Unfortunately, I think that most young ladies in college probably have a hard time realizing that when the whole system is strong, we all benefit. Recruitment is so competitive, so it is difficult to reconcile the two concepts, especially when you are young and your life revolves only around your own GLO. If NM programs stressed panhellenic ideas as well as individual GLO information, maybe these young ladies could see the other GLOs as allies rather than competitors.
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:52 PM
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I just want to clarify. I was told the local at Duq was originally Jewish based after I made the same TPA assumption as Honey did. What their current makeup is I'm not sure. However, I would think/hope that the current sisters would honor their founders by taking that into consideration when choosing a national group.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:32 PM
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I think you are right that some of the solution is local campus culture. Unfortunately, I think that most young ladies in college probably have a hard time realizing that when the whole system is strong, we all benefit. Recruitment is so competitive, so it is difficult to reconcile the two concepts, especially when you are young and your life revolves only around your own GLO. If NM programs stressed panhellenic ideas as well as individual GLO information, maybe these young ladies could see the other GLOs as allies rather than competitors.


I think on a campus chapter to chapter basis that's true, but not necessarily on a national GLO to GLO level... I doubt the women on the panhellenic council at my campus even have the foggiest idea that Chi Omega has beaucoup chapters all over and Phi Sig is strongest in the Northeast.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:46 PM
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Isnt it true that Many if not Most GLOS are in a Regional Situation where they are stonger as not?

Granted, they may be trying to spread wings as it were?
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:33 PM
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So, to get back to the original question (?) who is supposed to help the Smaller GLOs or Chapters on Campus?
Tom, the original question what WHAT can be done, not WHO is supposed to do it. I think most people would say that if XYZ is seeking help, and NPC does not want to loose member orgs, NPC would need to help. There are two conversations going on in this thread, one is about extention, the other is what can be done to help other groups. Similar, but different beasts.


AXiD670- Though it is slightly out of context it does point to the fact that our orgs futures are essentially up to the minds of whimiscal 18 yr olds who only have a HS degree. I think if we, NPC, wanted to make new strides toward regional chapter diversity it would have to look at new rules for extention and HQs would have to play a much larger role in that process. For example, AST (cause I don't want to pick on anyone else) would have to say, we do have 23 chapter is PA, the next time a campus open up, we will promise to forgo those opportunities for the chance to have a preferential presentiation in CA. I just, sadly, think that might be way to much to ask. Of course you then have to have alumnae support to make it work, or all hell will break loose.


Just thinking while I type....
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Old 11-30-2005, 08:50 PM
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Tom, the original question what WHAT can be done, not WHO is supposed to do it. I think most people would say that if XYZ is seeking help, and NPC does not want to loose member orgs, NPC would need to help. There are two conversations going on in this thread, one is about extention, the other is what can be done to help other groups. Similar, but different beasts.


AXiD670- Though it is slightly out of context it does point to the fact that our orgs futures are essentially up to the minds of whimiscal 18 yr olds who only have a HS degree. I think if we, NPC, wanted to make new strides toward regional chapter diversity it would have to look at new rules for extention and HQs would have to play a much larger role in that process. For example, AST (cause I don't want to pick on anyone else) would have to say, we do have 23 chapter is PA, the next time a campus open up, we will promise to forgo those opportunities for the chance to have a preferential presentiation in CA. I just, sadly, think that might be way to much to ask. Of course you then have to have alumnae support t o make it work, or all hell will break loose.


Just thinking while I type....

No, still thinking, Who is Supposed to Help? That was My Question. (?)

At What Level as it were. National or Local Greeks?
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Old 11-30-2005, 09:53 PM
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I have heard not so positive rumors about the local at CMU, but things may have changed since then. I hope so!

CMU used to let their greeks get away with a lot, but have REALLY cracked down in recent years.

Out of curiousity- does Theta Nu Xi have a chapter at CMU?
As for as i know, we don't have a chapter at CMU. But we are growing by leaps and bounds...
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:25 PM
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As for as i know, we don't have a chapter at CMU. But we are growing by leaps and bounds...
CMU is a very diverse campus ethnically and ideologically as well. I think that Theta Nu Xi or another MC org would be well recieved there, actually.
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