NCAA Football... It's in the game!

[Kevin]

Has A&M faced Texas yet? The way they played on Sunday they should be able to demolish Texas (which in my humble opinion is the most overrated team in football [next to the Buckeyes]).

Being an OU fan I'm pissed things turned out the way they did but you have to give it up for the Aggies. Hell of a game!

[chopper816]

Originally posted by ktsnake
Has A&M faced Texas yet? The way they played on Sunday they should be able to demolish Texas (which in my humble opinion is the most overrated team in football [next to the Buckeyes]).

Being an OU fan I'm pissed things turned out the way they did but you have to give it up for the Aggies. Hell of a game!

watch it with the overrated, your skating on THIN ice!!!!!

[Kevin]

Losing by 4 points AT Kyle Field is a lot more respectable than losing by 14 in a neutral field.

Ice is plenty thick if you asked me. Still #1 in Big 12 South.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by ktsnake
The way they played on Sunday they should be able to demolish Texas (which in my humble opinion is the most overrated team in football [next to the Buckeyes]).

It's pretty simple in my mind - teams that don't lose get ranked higher than those who do. Ohio State beat the Wisconsins of the world (this year's Big 10 equivalent of A&M) - fair or not, that's how the polls work . . . I do think OU should be ranked higher than Texas though, the bias against losing late (rather than in the first couple games) sucks.

Either way, tough loss for OU, they're a better team than they showed this weekend. That's why college football is fantastic - home field and momentum can make up for a lot of talent differential.

[Kevin]

Originally posted by KSig RC


It's pretty simple in my mind - teams that don't lose get ranked higher than those who do. Ohio State beat the Wisconsins of the world (this year's Big 10 equivalent of A&M) - fair or not, that's how the polls work . . . I do think OU should be ranked higher than Texas though, the bias against losing late (rather than in the first couple games) sucks.

Either way, tough loss for OU, they're a better team than they showed this weekend. That's why college football is fantastic - home field and momentum can make up for a lot of talent differential.

Agreed and agreed. I saw the AP poll had them tied for 4th.. It'll tighten up as the season moves on.. And if both teams finish the conference with only 1 loss OU gets the title game because they beat Texas. If TX stays ahead in the polls though they may end up seeing Miami or someone in the Fiesta (which would be messed up)

ktsnake-

A&M plays t.u. the last game of the year, the day after Thanksgiving in Austin. And i agree with you, i think that A&M SHOULD demolish texas, but i fear that we won't, simply because it's a game on the road, and i don't think RC has another big win in him this season.

I'm a realist, i don't expect us to go undefeated every year, but to me there are acceptable losses and unacceptable losses. I can stomach losing to Va Tech, Oklahoma, Nebraska, or, <shudder> even texas occasionally. But to me, A&M should rarely lose to schools like ITTech, Baylor, and Oklahoma State. This stems from the fact that A&M is one of the top public schools in the country, is in the top 5 in enrollment and size, and surely recieves enough money in donations in grants to buy tech outright. My knock on RC is not that he can't win the big game, because he has won big games before, my problem is that he doesn't instill a killer instinct into his teams that cause them to cruise over obviously less talented teams. See Florida, Nebraska of old, FSU ususally, etc.

As far as the talent deficiency between A&M and OU, i really think that the talent levels are rather similar, Stoops is just a much better motivator, is a much better coach, and gets tremendously more out of his athletes than RC. A&M is always at the top of Big XII schools with players in the NFL, you just would think we could parlay that into a little more success while they're here.

Gig 'em

Kitso
KS 361 yards Reggie needs to have against Mizzou this weekend.

[Thrillhouse]

Originally posted by chopper816


watch it with the overrated, your skating on THIN ice!!!!!

I wouldn't taunt an Oklahoma fan, or did you forget the loss this year? If Oklahoma is behind Texas in the bcs than most college football fans will just say "here we go again"

[Kevin]

I agree Aggie. That true freshman QB A&M had in there was incredible. Fooling guys like Brandon Everage (FS #7) is NOT easily done but he did it VERY well.

Hopefully Stoops can get Oklahoma fired up for the remaining games where they *should* run the table versus OU, OSU and Baylor.

[Kevin]

They should 'promote' the man to AD. I'd feel bad for him if they just canned him after 14 years. He's been a good coach for A&M.

[lifesaver]

Originally posted by chopper816
someone knocked oklahoma off their perch like i hoped for!!!!! texas a & m has become a new favorite of mine, now hopefully they can lose again so texas can go to the big 12 title game, *crossing the fingers*!!!!!

Right on.

My message to the Aggies, "Thank you, thank you, thank you."

I'd sing your little fight song or whatever it is, but its about UT, (BTW, do ya'll sing that when you play Baylor or whatever? Got to be pretty wierd to be playing Nebraska but singing down with UT.)

Anyway, thanks so much. We really appreciate it. Can I get ya'll a gift certificate or soemthing? Just a little token of thanks.

See you at the end of the month.

Originally posted by lifesaver


Right on.

I'd sing your little fight song or whatever it is, but its about UT, (BTW, do ya'll sing that when you play Baylor or whatever? Got to be pretty wierd to be playing Nebraska but singing down with UT.)

See you at the end of the month.

It's actually not a fight song, it's a War Hymn

And it's never weird to sing down to y'all. We're proud everyday to be the antithesis of what y'all are

That being said, your welcome for the win. But i think we're stroking your egos for just a tad more until we burst your bubble T+1.

As far as RC is concerned, i don't think he'll be canned this year, as by the time we get a new AD hired, it'll be too late in the game and could seriously affect recruting. However, next season RC is staring at away games that include AT Va Tech, AT ITexasTech, AT Nebraska, AT Oklahoma. Unless he vastly changes his approach and we win those games, i anticipate him to be reassigned in the athletic department by next CHRISTMAS.

Gig 'em,

Kitso
KS 361 times i'll sing the Aggie War Hymn and 'Varsity's horns are sawed off" against Mizzou this weekend

[Thrillhouse]

Originally posted by h2oot
When the ball was tipped a couple of times by KU

I bet Kentucky fans wish they had just knocked the ball down. Thats the luckiest play I had seen since the 97 Nebraska vs Missouri game. In ot, the ball bounced off of a foot of a Nebraska player and landed in the hands of a reciever for a td.

[DeltAlum]

This makes perfect sense to me...In a really perverted way...

BCS, College Football on
Verge of Complete Disaster

By NORMAN CHAD
AOL Exclusive

This is the time of season in which the BCS reaches a boiling point. And if either Miami (Fla.) or Ohio State loses before the end of the year -- a virtual certainty, my friends -- well, then, the BCS will boil over.

For we will have about 125 college football teams with one defeat, and even if America happens to be at war against Iraq, the BCS brouhaha will overshadow any Baghdad bombs.

Naturally, the whole thing will be decided by a computer.

Before we go any further, let's go over The Big Picture one more time, with feeling:

Should there be a national championship playoff format in college football? Yes.

Do we absolutely need a national championship playoff format in college football? No. (What we absolutely need is health care reform. And shorter lines at the post office.)

Also, before we go any further, please remember:

The BCS is pretty much just BS with a middle initial.

Anyway, absent of a playoff system -- which, incidentally, would not end all the current arguing and shouting, it would simply redirect the arguing and shouting to who's in and who's out -- we are left with the wonder and rapture that is the Bowl Championship Series.

The BCS rankings, as many of you sadly know, are a compilation of the average of the coaches poll and the Associated Press media poll, the average of seven computer evaluations, plus factoring in the variables of strength of schedule, quality victories and total number of defeats.

In other words, it would be easier to chart Drew Barrymore's relationship arcs than it would be to dissect the BCS formula.

The first BCS problem here are the human elements -- who can trust coaches or sportswriters?

Coaches have built-in biases, plus they don't watch too many games.

Sportswriters also have built-in biases, plus they're generally eating while watching too many games.

So when either group tries to tell me which are the nation's top teams, I'm inclined to tune these folks out and tune in to 'Father Knows Best' on Nick at Nite.

(This would be as good a time as any to address the angry e-mails I've received about AOL's own college football ranking, the mysterious and maligned Couch Slouch Eight. Some of the irate mob are missing the point. First and foremost, I'm just trying to have fun. Secondly, I'm just trying to show people that no one can really know who No. 1 or No. 2 or No. 22 is -- we're talking about teams in different parts of a very large country, facing vastly dissimilar schedules and usually not playing each other. It's like trying to decide if Catherine Deneuve or Catherine Zeta-Jones is a better actress -- well, maybe that's a bad example -- or if the Big Mac or the Whopper is a better burger. We all have varying tastes and opinions, and unless the teams or actresses or burgers in question meet in a postseason playoff -- preferably at a neutral field, screen or grill -- it's all conjecture and hot air.)

The second BCS problem here is the inhuman elements -- who can trust a computer, or don't you all remember the HAL 9000 in '2001: A Space Odyssey'?

Jeff Sagarin, my butt.

(These computer programmers are largely rumpled madmen sitting in the basement of their parents' home, alternating between reading data printouts and spitting out sunflower seeds.)

If we went by computer, the New York Mets would never get a chance to win the 1969 World Series and the Baltimore Ravens would never make it to Super Bowl XXXV. If we went by computer, the incomparable Steve Buscemi would be working as a street mime outside a Tallahassee, Fla., dinner theater.

Computers are good for two things -- Tetris and Minesweeper.

I would trust the bastard child of a personal injury lawyer and an insurance claims adjuster before I'd trust a computer.

(Computers? Computers? Please. I'll tell you how unreliable they are: A computer dating service led to my first marriage.)

Besides, on any given day a computer could have a virus, and the next thing you know, Cornell is ranked No. 3 in the nation.

So when Ohio State loses to Michigan this Saturday, or when Miami loses to Pittsburgh, Syracuse or Virginia Tech sometime soon, the nation will turn to Gateway and Dell, and, believe you me, somebody's computer server is going to crash trying to figure out the Bowl Chaos Series possibilities.

Me? I don't need a computer. I have a microwave and a blender -- and the firm belief that Duquesne is No. 1.

The Couch Slouch Eight

With Montana becoming the third consecutive No. 1 team in the Couch Slouch Eight to tumble from the unbeaten ranks, the inevitable finally transpired -- Duquesne now occupies the top spot. Are the Dukes Fiesta Bowl-bound? Of course not. More likely, they will be headed for the ECAC Bowl, despite recording four shutouts this season and outscoring their final five opponents 237-17.

Congratulations to running back Ian Smart of No. 4 C.W. Post, who scored four times in the Pioneers' 35-16 victory over Pace to set an NCAA career all-division record with 94 touchdowns.

Miami (Fla.) remains in its entrenched No. 8 position, after several lackluster practices during its bye week.

This week's Couch Slouch Eight:
1. Duquesne (11-0)
2. Dayton (10-1)
3. Ohio State (12-0)
4. C.W. Post (11-0)
5. Boise State (10-1)
6. Rutgers (1-9)
7. Miami (Ohio) (7-4)
8. Miami (Fla.) (9-0)

Others receiving votes: Maryland, Culinary Institute of America, McDonald's Hamburger University.

Heisman Watch

Our Heisman Trophy favorite, Hawaii's Timmy Chang, completed 35 of 64 passes for 369 yards as the Warriors won at Rice, 33-28. Chang had to shake off jet lag, the time-zone change and "mainland malaise," not to mention it was windy and chilly in Houston, plus, let me tell you, I've never done a good day's work myself in that God-forsaken city, so it was a steady, if unspectacular, Saturday for the sophomore sensation.

Meanwhile, our Heisman Trophy co-favorite, San Diego State's Adam Hall, was carted off the field with a concussion in the second quarter of the Aztecs'
49-21 loss to Colorado State, the victim of a facemask by linebacker Drew Wood. Hall had completed 11 of 15 passes for 120 yards and probably was en route to another 500-yard day. For the season, he has completed 272 of 452 passes for 3,253 yards and 17 touchdowns. "And the Heisman goes to Adam Hall!" Boy, that's got a good ring to it.

[DeltAlum]

"Bump"
I thought the above was pretty clever, but it didn't bump up when I posted it.

[IowaHawkeye]

I thought that was pretty funny Delt Alum

The BCS is one crazy system - but for the most part, it works (sometimes )

On another note, my Hawkeyes are #7 and in the Clubhouse with no where to go but up. We get to kick back and watch some football for the next couple of weeks

Anyone see news footage of Iowa fans taking down the goal post at Minnesota? Yea, I know some of those people - CRAZY!